Is the PERENDEV company corrupt?

This page can be found at: http://www.phact.org/e/z/perendev.htm
 

 

The have been many free energy claims – so I offer $10,000 for proof of a real working one.

 

A pro story about Perendev's being accused of cheating is found at:

http://www.remnantsaints.com/AlternativeUtilities/Beware/AquaGen/torbj_pansy.htm

 

 

The following is a debate on the free_energy email list between someone accusing PERENDEW POWER of fraud:

 

Hi Eric !

I  will followup with full story tomorrow ! It started in april 2002, when I found a company in South Africa , making magnetmotors. I found it attheverylastpage of the internet (Don Adsitt ) - pages.
I immediate took contact with this Co , and finally got an invoice from Perendev Power Developements PTY  Ltd, stating usd 6000,- for a 6 KW magnetmotor 220 v 50 hz  .The invoice also states 2 months delivery + 2
weeks for shipping. We paid the invoice from our company, Aqua Gen AS. We paid according to banking instructions the 14. june 2002. OK - The time was running , and I had some investors in Oslo- area interested in this new technology. However , we were offered the sole production rigts for Norway at a  price of usd 500.000,- + 5 % royalty. OUR PROBLEM WAS :  Mr. Mike Brady always took the telephone (IN WHICH BUILT UP OUR TRUST TO HIS COMPANY ) He always had a serious answer – with technical reference. AND  HERE WE WERE CHEATED - MAINLY ME PERSONALLY - trusting this idiot - starting telling lies all thetime.
OK  14. june + 2 months and 2 weeks is :   1 SEPTEMBER  2002 !!!   No motor ! No letter ! No information ! I phones many times during september and october , but , UNFORTUNEATLY Mr. Brady , and he said "sorry, but next week" " improvements". And this maintained for weeks - to november - when I decided to tell Mr. Brady what I meant about his business behaviour ! He told me he had one other customer in Holland and one in AMerica , which is probably  Sterling Allen - orientated
!
I now really started getting angry with theCo , and spread some questionning info about this hoax at the energy Groups ! - SURPRICINGLY MR STERLING ALLEN ( took the work from Mr.,Brady) and gave me back by hard words !! ON groups, and private emails !  He treatened me by lawyers , shooting and so on . Mr Brady has personally treatened me by telephone to come here to Norway to "personally sit on my shoulder ""...whatever that can mean !
My attorney is informed, and ØKOKRIM ( Police of Economic Criminality )  is wagely informed. They say they can do nothing TILL the result of  Debt Collect .
He /mr Allen ; did REALLY MISLIKE my hornblowing of fraudlent company , even he has it on his free energy pages !! I ask a question :; HOW SERIOUS IS THIS MR ALLEN AND HIS REMAINT SAINTS - PAGES if it should not be legal to TO WARN OTHERS TO BE CHEATED ????????????????? I think Mr-. Allen Is associated , he gets his percents -  that is probably why he so very much DISLIKE my information to other people - THEN FEWER PEOPLE   WILL BE CHEATED – LESS MONEY IN THE POCKET !!!!  I Think !  That is our experience with Mr Alen and Mr Brady ! So, we sent the 1, 2  AND 3 reminder with qualified date difference, and now
an Oslo Company (Lindorrf AS) is taking care of the DEBT CREDIT !  We probably LOST OUR usd 6000,- of FARUDLENT INETRNATIONAL ECONOMIC CHEATER , having their background in electronics and metallurgy . And they have international connections, which is called  "Organized Criminality" A FEW PERCENT OF technical background as well as mechanical background  gives the the ability to answer, but MAIN INTEREST IS BLUFFING MONEY OUT OF OTHERS PEOPLES/COs POCKETS !
More to follow , Eric ! I know You are skeptic . Now we are  MUCH MORE SKEPTIC TEN WE WERE  AFTER HAVING LOST 6000 USD !!!  PERHAPS THEY CAN CHEAT ANOTHER TO REFUND US THE USD 6000,-
Only time will show !
Best regards
Aqua GEN AS
Torbj. Homelien

 

 

From: "reiros" <reiros@start.no>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 0:09pm
Subject: Re: PERENDEW POWER CHEATS ITS CUSTOMERS !!!!! COLLECT MONEY - BUT GIVE NOTHING BACK AFTER 7 MONTHS ! INVOICE PROMISED 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

STAY AWAY FROM PERENDEW POWER  !!!  IT IS WASTING MONEY !!!
 
AND STERLING ALLEN PROTECTS THIS CHEATING COMPANY SO MUCH !!!! Cheq up if  Tilley Company is the same !!! -- BE SKEPTIC TO THE COMPANIES AT REMAINT SAINTS - PAGES  -  BECAUSE STERLING ALLEN IS NOT SKEPTIC  !!! HE DOES NOT LIKE TO BE INFORMED WHEN  CUSTOMERS ARE CHEATED !!!!
 
'Sterling Allen !
If You are SO MUCH INFILTRATED WITHE PERENDEW POWER DEVELOPEMENTS , Pty. LTD WHY NOT YOU COME UP  WITH THE MONEY - TO HELP YOUR FRIEND MIKE BRADY !!!
IT IS ONLY A MATTER  TO GET PIECE OF USD 6000,-  !!!  SMALL MONEY !!!  TILL THAT TIME OF REFUND  WE WILL BE WARNING OTHER PEOPLE / COMPANIES
AGAINST THIS COMPANY - SO OTHERS ARE NOT CHEATED !!!!!!!!
Best regards
Aqua Gen as
Torbj H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
To: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: PERENDEW POWER CHEATS ITS CUSTOMERS !!!!! COLLECT MONEY - BUT
GIVE NOTHING BACK AFTER 7 MONTHS ! INVOICE PROMISED 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
> Torbj. H
>
> You are the only grieved party that I know of, and considering the
> circumstances, I do not consider this case sufficient to warrant and
> "expose" of Mike Brady.
>
> The reason Mike is not responding is that he is away on holiday with his
> family.  He will be returning Friday.
>
> Believe me, you will be hearing from him.
>
> Take some advice.  If you want your 6000 back, tone down your approach.
>
> If you go for the ego, I'm afraid you're pursuit will end in an explosion of
> temper.  He has more ego than most people I've met, including you.
>
> I'm going to be approaching his attorney and suggesting that he just have
> Mike pay the 6000 and have it be over . . . if you assure me that you did
> not receive any
> - proprietary or sensitive information such as
>  o drawings
>  o photos that are not on the website
>  o names of key personnel not listed on the website or in other public
> records
>  o secrets as to how the device works
>
> If you did, then they are morally justified in requiring from you some kind
> of assurance that you will not disclose that information.
>
> If the information was conveyed accidentally (e.g. because Mike thought he
> was sending me something but was actually sending it to you, mistaking the
> similar email address), they probably do not have any legal basis for
> requiring assurances of non-disclosure/non-compete from you.  But your
> giving such an assurance anyway, as a gentlemanly gesture, would give them
> the peace of mind they want.
>
> Please be reasonable, and you will get your money.  Otherwise you are
> assured a day in court to the pleasure of your attorneys and the chagrin of
> several wallets.
>
> I have a vested interest in having this resolved in an expedited way. Every
> hour Mike spends fighting you (because of your attack on his ego), is an
> hour he could have been spending productively in getting his device out to
> the world.
>
> Your first attack already cost us a trip he had planned to make here to the
> U.S. in November.
>
> I would like to be able to resolve this with Mike's attorney before Mike
> gets back from his vacation and finds his inbox filled with hateful mail
> from you, sending him ballistic.
>
> If I can resolve it with the attorney, and get an assurance from him, then I
> can contact Mike (privileged communications line) and tell him that the
> situation has been resolved, and that he can just ignore the messages from
> you when he gets back.
>
> In order for this to happen, I need your cooperation in answering the
> question:
>
> do you have proprietary or sensitive information such as
>  o drawings
>  o photos that are not on the website
>  o names of key personnel not listed on the website or in other public  records
>  o secrets as to how the device works?
>
> If so, are you willing, as a gentleman, to agree to sign a reasonable
> non-disclosure and non-competition agreement specifying the technology as
> set forth in the patents he has filed?
>
> In closing, please be apprized that this is my attempt at mediation from my
> point of view, and that the terms that Mike's attorney requires may be
> different to some extent.
>
> I've personally met Mike's attorney, and consider him to be extremely
> competent, reasonable, clear-thinking person.  He's not an ambulance chaser.
>
> Sterling
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> To: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:46 AM
> Subject: Re: PERENDEW POWER CHEATS ITS CUSTOMERS !!!!! COLLECT MONEY - BUT
> GIVE NOTHING BACK AFTER 7 MONTHS ! INVOICE PROMISED 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> To: "Free Energy egroup" <free_energy@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:45 PM
> Subject: PERENDEW POWER CHEATS ITS CUSTOMERS !!!!! COLLECT MONEY - BUT GIVE
> NOTHING BACK AFTER 7 MONTHS ! INVOICE PROMISED 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> > Sterling !
> >
> > THE UNSERIOUS CHEATER IN JOHANNESBURG DOESNT REPLY . TILL THIS DAY WE GOT
> N O    : (MEANS 0) LETTERS FROM HIM : HE NEVER TELEPHONED TO GIVE FEEDBACK
> > AFTER HAVING RECEÏVED USD 6000,-
> > CANT YOU IN NAME OM HONESTY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SUPPORT A CHEATER
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > AND -  A PEACE MAKER  DOES LISTEN TO REALLITY - AND APPERICIATE TO GET - AND
> > TRANSFER CORRECT INFO TO HIS WEB-PAGES !
> > You bring up a company WHO ONLY STEALS MONEY , and GIVE NOTHING BACK !YOU
> > DISERVERE
> > A MORAL WAKEUP - TO UNDERSTAND YOU - IN YOUR WAY OF TREATMENT OF NEGATIVE
> > INFO -
> > YOU SUPPORT  M  I K E   B R A D Y SO HE CAN CHEAT OTHERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > YOU - YOU - must help OTHER PEOPLE NOT BEING CHEATED
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > IF NOT , YOU SUPPORT HIS CRIMINAL BUSINESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!    - Think over
> > this , Mr.. Allen !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > YOU MUST SEND OUT WARNINGS   -     WHEN YOU GET WARNINGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Aqua Gen
> > Torbj.H
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
> > To: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> > Cc: "Eric Krieg" <eric@p...>
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: Just answer the questions.
> >
> >
> > > Torbj. H,
> > >
> > > I'm bowing out of this mess.
> > >
> > > Please direct all future correspondence to Mike Brady.
> > >
> > > I was trying to be a peacemaker here to help you understand each other,  but
> > > you do not seem to be up to reason.  You are too self centered to see the
> > > other person's point of view and come to a reasonable solution that
> > > satisfies both parties.
> > >
> > > Your attorneys will love you for all the money you're going to have to pay
> > > them to settle this brouhaha.  Had you let me mediate for you, you would
> > > have gotten your 6,000 last month, end of story.
> > >
> > > If I was a judge, I would say to get the Hell out of my courtroom and stop
> > > wasting my time.  If you can't grow up in the playground, then stop
> > > pretending like your an adult.
> > >
> > > Sheesh.
> > >
> > > Had you just calmly answered the questions I posed last month, and satisfied
> > > Mike that no privileged information was conveyed, then he would have calmed
> > > down and forked out the refund.  Worst case, it might have taken a month for
> > > him to scrape it up, but you would have had your money.  Now both of you are
> > > going to be spending countless thousands of dollars in court costs.
> > You'll be demanding your money, and he will be demanding protection of his
> > > intellectual property.
> > >
> > > I don't want to be any part of that mess.  My mediating role is through.  I
> > > got bit once trying to break up a dog fight.
> > >
> > > Sterling
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> > > To: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Just answer the questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr Sterling Allen !
> > >
> > > AGAIN : WHY IN HELL SHOULD  WE ANSWER SUCH QUESTIONS TO YOU
> > > ???????????????????
> > > To YOU , WHO are NOT JURIDICAL INVOLVED WITH  THE PROBLEMATIC cheating
> > > COMPANY ????????
> > >
> > > Our juridical onlyasking / involved COMPANY IS perENDEV . And THIS IS
> > > FINALLY ! As usually I pass over all mails to my Debt Collect comapny which
> > > is Lindorrf AS , Oslo  + our attorney !
> > >
> > > I dont see ONE REASON TO ANSWER YOU BULLSHIT QUESTIONS !!!!!!!!!!! You that
> > > not even brought up the Company Number - JUST TO DELAY OUR  DEBT COLLECT
> > > DATE  !!!!!!!!!!!! Associated disinformant !!!!!!
> > >
> > > Are You serious ??  Your WEB-pages TRIES  ! Then STOP BRINGING UP FRAUDLENT
> > > COMPANIES LIKE TILLEY and PERENDEV Power !!!!!!           OTHERS WILL BE
> > > CHEATED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > OORRRRR!!!!!       DO YOU GET YOUR ROYALTY OF THE CHEATED MONEY ????  Just
> > > a thought !!!
> > >
> > > Happy New Year Mr Sterling Allen !
> > >
> > > Please be MORE OBJECTIVE IN YOUR INFORMATION THE NEXT YEAR
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > MUST BE LEGAL TO INFORM ABOUT BAD EXPERIENCE OF  THE COMPANIES YOU PUT UP
> > > !!!!!!
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Aqua Gen As
> > > Torbj. H
> > >
> > >

 

 

From: "reiros" <reiros@start.no>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 0:29pm
Subject: Re: [free_energy] Re: Sterling's Reply to Torbj. H's accusation of fraud THREATENING OF CUSTOMERS ! VIOLENCE ! EX POLICE OFFICERS !!!!!!

 

Leo !

 

YES !

 

THIS  is the worst business experience in my life !! I have NEVER been threatened in my 50 Year old life  like these people do !! WE saw a busines sopportunity by Perendew Power developements Pty Ltd, and tried to follow up the possibiliteies ! This man / Co issued an invoice , we talked to him by phone  many times , paid the invoice of usd 6000,-   a t 14 june 2002 . Everything seemed OK  . Promised delivery time was 2 months + 2 weeks for shipping .  This means : We could expect the motor here 1 sept 2002 !

 

TODAY IS  NEW YEARS EVE !!!

We STILL have NO MOTOR or NO REFUND ; in spite of MULTIPLE promises by email and telephone. Now Sterling Allen say Mike Brady is on vavcation : PROBABLY OF STOLEN /CHEATED MONEY !! This is his proffesion !! Once I spoke to him he was at the  CAPE TOWN BEACH !! sTOLEN CHEATED MONEY !! YES , free energy investments are dangerous ! i CAN ASSURE yOU !! I will buy electric from my local electric company !  They are EXPENCIVE , but the never THREAT me WITH VIOLENCE or BEATING ME UP ,  LIKE  STERLING ALLEN AND MIKE BRADY DOES !!!! BY mail and telephone !!! I waii buy my diesel frrom my GAS station !  They NEVER THREAT ME!!!

 

I was simply involved in this CIRCIUS  because our company ORDERED a magnet motro of 6 KWa from Perendev Power Pty Ltd in South Africa !

And  STERLING ALLEN  took  the work AS SPOKESMAN FOR THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WHY ????????????????

 

Happy New Year !

NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THESE PEOPLE !!   BAD PEOPLE !!!

Aqua Gen AS

Torbj. H

 

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Leo C.

 

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 5:07 AM

 

 

 

Subject: [free_energy] Re: Sterling's Reply to Torbj. H's accusation of fraud

 

 

 

 


Great business model!

1. Miss a promised delivery date on a $6000 purchase.

2. When contacted by the customer, explain that the delivery may
actually take "any time between now and when I die" (and throw in a
racial slur too).

3. Attempt to divert attention from the customer's complaint by
inventing a bogus accusation and threatening a groundless law suite
against them: "Torbj. H had better stand down or he will loose far
more than 6000"

4.  To top it all off, advocate violence against the customer by
publicly stating that "He ought to be shot" (talk about law suites!)


In my experience, reputable companies generally reply to customer
complaints in a positive and courteous manner.  Such companies,
being fully aware of the long-term importance of reputation,
understand the practical benefit of satisfying individual customers.

By contrast, scam artists usually become irate and abusive (either
immediately or after politely stalling for a while) when contacted
by unsatisfied customers.  Scammers, having no real product to
offer, can only satisfy their "customers" (victims) by giving the
money back -- a very disagreeable remedy from the scammer's point of
view!

This "Sterling D. Allan" person has shown his/her true colors. 
Seems to me that his/her reply below damages the credibility
of "Perendev Power" even more than Torbj's original complaint. 
Thanks for the information!

Leo C.

 

The story of the guy ripped off by the perendev device for $6000 (never got the machine ordered) reminds me

of the Norm Biss story about being cheated by Newman:

http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm

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