Is the PERENDEV company corrupt?
This page can be found at: http://www.phact.org/e/z/perendev.htm
The have been many free energy claims – so I offer $10,000 for proof of a real working one.
A pro story about Perendev's being accused of cheating is found at:
http://www.remnantsaints.com/AlternativeUtilities/Beware/AquaGen/torbj_pansy.htm
The following is a debate on the free_energy email list between someone accusing PERENDEW POWER of fraud:
Hi Eric !
I will followup with full story tomorrow ! It started in april 2002, when I
found a company in South Africa , making magnetmotors. I found it
attheverylastpage of the internet (Don Adsitt ) - pages.
I immediate took contact with this Co , and finally got an invoice from
Perendev Power Developements PTY Ltd, stating usd 6000,- for a 6 KW
magnetmotor 220 v 50 hz .The invoice also states 2 months delivery + 2
weeks for shipping. We paid the invoice from our company, Aqua Gen AS. We paid
according to banking instructions the 14. june 2002. OK - The time was running
, and I had some investors in Oslo- area interested in this new technology.
However , we were offered the sole production rigts for Norway at a price of
usd 500.000,- + 5 % royalty. OUR PROBLEM WAS : Mr. Mike Brady always took the
telephone (IN WHICH BUILT UP OUR TRUST TO HIS COMPANY ) He always had a
serious answer – with technical reference. AND HERE WE WERE CHEATED - MAINLY
ME PERSONALLY - trusting this idiot - starting telling lies all thetime.
OK 14. june + 2 months and 2 weeks is : 1 SEPTEMBER 2002 !!! No motor !
No letter ! No information ! I phones many times during september and october
, but , UNFORTUNEATLY Mr. Brady , and he said "sorry, but next week" "
improvements". And this maintained for weeks - to november - when I decided to
tell Mr. Brady what I meant about his business behaviour ! He told me he had
one other customer in Holland and one in AMerica , which is probably Sterling
Allen - orientated
!
I now really started getting angry with theCo , and spread some questionning
info about this hoax at the energy Groups ! - SURPRICINGLY MR STERLING ALLEN (
took the work from Mr.,Brady) and gave me back by hard words !! ON groups, and
private emails ! He treatened me by lawyers , shooting and so on . Mr Brady
has personally treatened me by telephone to come here to Norway to "personally
sit on my shoulder ""...whatever that can mean !
My attorney is informed, and ØKOKRIM ( Police of Economic Criminality ) is
wagely informed. They say they can do nothing TILL the result of Debt Collect
.
He /mr Allen ; did REALLY MISLIKE my hornblowing of fraudlent company , even
he has it on his free energy pages !! I ask a question :; HOW SERIOUS IS THIS
MR ALLEN AND HIS REMAINT SAINTS - PAGES if it should not be legal to TO WARN
OTHERS TO BE CHEATED ????????????????? I think Mr-. Allen Is associated , he
gets his percents - that is probably why he so very much DISLIKE my
information to other people - THEN FEWER PEOPLE WILL BE CHEATED – LESS MONEY
IN THE POCKET !!!! I Think ! That is our experience with Mr Alen and Mr
Brady ! So, we sent the 1, 2 AND 3 reminder with qualified date difference,
and now
an Oslo Company (Lindorrf AS) is taking care of the DEBT CREDIT ! We probably
LOST OUR usd 6000,- of FARUDLENT INETRNATIONAL ECONOMIC CHEATER , having their
background in electronics and metallurgy . And they have international
connections, which is called "Organized Criminality" A FEW PERCENT OF
technical background as well as mechanical background gives the the ability
to answer, but MAIN INTEREST IS BLUFFING MONEY OUT OF OTHERS PEOPLES/COs
POCKETS !
More to follow , Eric ! I know You are skeptic . Now we are MUCH MORE SKEPTIC
TEN WE WERE AFTER HAVING LOST 6000 USD !!! PERHAPS THEY CAN CHEAT ANOTHER TO
REFUND US THE USD 6000,-
Only time will show !
Best regards
Aqua GEN AS
Torbj. Homelien
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From:
"reiros" <reiros@start.no> |
STAY AWAY FROM PERENDEW POWER !!! IT IS WASTING MONEY !!!
AND STERLING ALLEN PROTECTS THIS CHEATING COMPANY SO MUCH !!!! Cheq up if Tilley Company is the same !!! -- BE SKEPTIC TO THE COMPANIES AT REMAINT SAINTS - PAGES - BECAUSE STERLING ALLEN IS NOT SKEPTIC !!! HE DOES NOT LIKE TO BE INFORMED WHEN CUSTOMERS ARE CHEATED !!!!
'Sterling Allen !
If You are SO MUCH INFILTRATED WITHE PERENDEW POWER DEVELOPEMENTS , Pty. LTD WHY NOT YOU COME UP WITH THE MONEY - TO HELP YOUR FRIEND MIKE BRADY !!!
IT IS ONLY A MATTER TO GET PIECE OF USD 6000,- !!! SMALL MONEY !!! TILL THAT TIME OF REFUND WE WILL BE WARNING OTHER PEOPLE / COMPANIES
AGAINST THIS COMPANY - SO OTHERS ARE NOT CHEATED !!!!!!!!
Best regards
Aqua Gen as
Torbj H
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
To: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: PERENDEW POWER CHEATS ITS CUSTOMERS !!!!! COLLECT MONEY - BUT
GIVE NOTHING BACK AFTER 7 MONTHS ! INVOICE PROMISED 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Torbj. H
>
> You are the only grieved party that I know of, and considering the
> circumstances, I do not consider this case sufficient to warrant and
> "expose" of Mike Brady.
>
> The reason Mike is not responding is that he is away on holiday with his
> family. He will be returning Friday.
>
> Believe me, you will be hearing from him.
>
> Take some advice. If you want your 6000 back, tone down your approach.
>
> If you go for the ego, I'm afraid you're pursuit will end in an explosion of
> temper. He has more ego than most people I've met, including you.
>
> I'm going to be approaching his attorney and suggesting that he just have
> Mike pay the 6000 and have it be over . . . if you assure me that you did
> not receive any
> - proprietary or sensitive information such as
> o drawings
> o photos that are not on the website
> o names of key personnel not listed on the website or in other public
> records
> o secrets as to how the device works
>
> If you did, then they are morally justified in requiring from you some kind
> of assurance that you will not disclose that information.
>
> If the information was conveyed accidentally (e.g. because Mike thought he
> was sending me something but was actually sending it to you, mistaking the
> similar email address), they probably do not have any legal basis for
> requiring assurances of non-disclosure/non-compete from you. But your
> giving such an assurance anyway, as a gentlemanly gesture, would give them
> the peace of mind they want.
>
> Please be reasonable, and you will get your money. Otherwise you are
> assured a day in court to the pleasure of your attorneys and the chagrin of
> several wallets.
>
> I have a vested interest in having this resolved in an expedited way. Every
> hour Mike spends fighting you (because of your attack on his ego), is an
> hour he could have been spending productively in getting his device out to
> the world.
>
> Your first attack already cost us a trip he had planned to make here to the
> U.S. in November.
>
> I would like to be able to resolve this with Mike's attorney before Mike
> gets back from his vacation and finds his inbox filled with hateful mail
> from you, sending him ballistic.
>
> If I can resolve it with the attorney, and get an assurance from him, then I
> can contact Mike (privileged communications line) and tell him that the
> situation has been resolved, and that he can just ignore the messages from
> you when he gets back.
>
> In order for this to happen, I need your cooperation in answering the
> question:
>
> do you have proprietary or sensitive information such as
> o drawings
> o photos that are not on the website
> o names of key personnel not listed on the website or in other public records
> o secrets as to how the device works?
>
> If so, are you willing, as a gentleman, to agree to sign a reasonable
> non-disclosure and non-competition agreement specifying the technology as
> set forth in the patents he has filed?
>
> In closing, please be apprized that this is my attempt at mediation from my
> point of view, and that the terms that Mike's attorney requires may be
> different to some extent.
>
> I've personally met Mike's attorney, and consider him to be extremely
> competent, reasonable, clear-thinking person. He's not an ambulance chaser.
>
> Sterling
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> To: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:46 AM
> Subject: Re: PERENDEW POWER CHEATS ITS CUSTOMERS !!!!! COLLECT MONEY - BUT
> GIVE NOTHING BACK AFTER 7 MONTHS ! INVOICE PROMISED 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> To: "Free Energy egroup" <free_energy@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:45 PM
> Subject: PERENDEW POWER CHEATS ITS CUSTOMERS !!!!! COLLECT MONEY - BUT GIVE
> NOTHING BACK AFTER 7 MONTHS ! INVOICE PROMISED 2 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> > Sterling !
> >
> > THE UNSERIOUS CHEATER IN JOHANNESBURG DOESNT REPLY . TILL THIS DAY WE GOT
> N O : (MEANS 0) LETTERS FROM HIM : HE NEVER TELEPHONED TO GIVE FEEDBACK
> > AFTER HAVING RECEÏVED USD 6000,-
> > CANT YOU IN NAME OM HONESTY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SUPPORT A CHEATER
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > AND - A PEACE MAKER DOES LISTEN TO REALLITY - AND APPERICIATE TO GET - AND
> > TRANSFER CORRECT INFO TO HIS WEB-PAGES !
> > You bring up a company WHO ONLY STEALS MONEY , and GIVE NOTHING BACK !YOU
> > DISERVERE
> > A MORAL WAKEUP - TO UNDERSTAND YOU - IN YOUR WAY OF TREATMENT OF NEGATIVE
> > INFO -
> > YOU SUPPORT M I K E B R A D Y SO HE CAN CHEAT OTHERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > YOU - YOU - must help OTHER PEOPLE NOT BEING CHEATED
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > IF NOT , YOU SUPPORT HIS CRIMINAL BUSINESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Think over
> > this , Mr.. Allen !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > YOU MUST SEND OUT WARNINGS - WHEN YOU GET WARNINGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Aqua Gen
> > Torbj.H
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
> > To: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> > Cc: "Eric Krieg" <eric@p...>
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: Just answer the questions.
> >
> >
> > > Torbj. H,
> > >
> > > I'm bowing out of this mess.
> > >
> > > Please direct all future correspondence to Mike Brady.
> > >
> > > I was trying to be a peacemaker here to help you understand each other, but
> > > you do not seem to be up to reason. You are too self centered to see the
> > > other person's point of view and come to a reasonable solution that
> > > satisfies both parties.
> > >
> > > Your attorneys will love you for all the money you're going to have to pay
> > > them to settle this brouhaha. Had you let me mediate for you, you would
> > > have gotten your 6,000 last month, end of story.
> > >
> > > If I was a judge, I would say to get the Hell out of my courtroom and stop
> > > wasting my time. If you can't grow up in the playground, then stop
> > > pretending like your an adult.
> > >
> > > Sheesh.
> > >
> > > Had you just calmly answered the questions I posed last month, and satisfied
> > > Mike that no privileged information was conveyed, then he would have calmed
> > > down and forked out the refund. Worst case, it might have taken a month for
> > > him to scrape it up, but you would have had your money. Now both of you are
> > > going to be spending countless thousands of dollars in court costs.
> > You'll be demanding your money, and he will be demanding protection of his
> > > intellectual property.
> > >
> > > I don't want to be any part of that mess. My mediating role is through. I
> > > got bit once trying to break up a dog fight.
> > >
> > > Sterling
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "reiros" <reiros@s...>
> > > To: "Sterling D. Allan, PerenTech.com" <sterlingda@p...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Just answer the questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr Sterling Allen !
> > >
> > > AGAIN : WHY IN HELL SHOULD WE ANSWER SUCH QUESTIONS TO YOU
> > > ???????????????????
> > > To YOU , WHO are NOT JURIDICAL INVOLVED WITH THE PROBLEMATIC cheating
> > > COMPANY ????????
> > >
> > > Our juridical onlyasking / involved COMPANY IS perENDEV . And THIS IS
> > > FINALLY ! As usually I pass over all mails to my Debt Collect comapny which
> > > is Lindorrf AS , Oslo + our attorney !
> > >
> > > I dont see ONE REASON TO ANSWER YOU BULLSHIT QUESTIONS !!!!!!!!!!! You that
> > > not even brought up the Company Number - JUST TO DELAY OUR DEBT COLLECT
> > > DATE !!!!!!!!!!!! Associated disinformant !!!!!!
> > >
> > > Are You serious ?? Your WEB-pages TRIES ! Then STOP BRINGING UP FRAUDLENT
> > > COMPANIES LIKE TILLEY and PERENDEV Power !!!!!! OTHERS WILL BE
> > > CHEATED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > OORRRRR!!!!! DO YOU GET YOUR ROYALTY OF THE CHEATED MONEY ???? Just
> > > a thought !!!
> > >
> > > Happy New Year Mr Sterling Allen !
> > >
> > > Please be MORE OBJECTIVE IN YOUR INFORMATION THE NEXT YEAR
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > MUST BE LEGAL TO INFORM ABOUT BAD EXPERIENCE OF THE COMPANIES YOU PUT UP
> > > !!!!!!
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Aqua Gen As
> > > Torbj. H
> > >
> > >
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From:
"reiros" <reiros@start.no> |
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Leo !
YES !
THIS is the worst business experience in my life !! I have NEVER been threatened in my 50 Year old life like these people do !! WE saw a busines sopportunity by Perendew Power developements Pty Ltd, and tried to follow up the possibiliteies ! This man / Co issued an invoice , we talked to him by phone many times , paid the invoice of usd 6000,- a t 14 june 2002 . Everything seemed OK . Promised delivery time was 2 months + 2 weeks for shipping . This means : We could expect the motor here 1 sept 2002 !
TODAY IS NEW YEARS EVE !!! We STILL have NO MOTOR or NO REFUND ; in spite of MULTIPLE promises by email and telephone. Now Sterling Allen say Mike Brady is on vavcation : PROBABLY OF STOLEN /CHEATED MONEY !! This is his proffesion !! Once I spoke to him he was at the CAPE TOWN BEACH !! sTOLEN CHEATED MONEY !! YES , free energy investments are dangerous ! i CAN ASSURE yOU !! I will buy electric from my local electric company ! They are EXPENCIVE , but the never THREAT me WITH VIOLENCE or BEATING ME UP , LIKE STERLING ALLEN AND MIKE BRADY DOES !!!! BY mail and telephone !!! I waii buy my diesel frrom my GAS station ! They NEVER THREAT ME!!!
I was simply involved in this CIRCIUS because our company ORDERED a magnet motro of 6 KWa from Perendev Power Pty Ltd in South Africa ! And STERLING ALLEN took the work AS SPOKESMAN FOR THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY ????????????????
Happy New Year ! NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THESE PEOPLE !! BAD PEOPLE !!! Aqua Gen AS Torbj. H
----- Original Message -----
From:
Leo C.
Sent:
Tuesday, December 31, 2002 5:07 AM
Subject:
[free_energy] Re: Sterling's Reply to Torbj. H's accusation of fraud
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The story of the guy ripped off by the perendev device for $6000 (never got the machine ordered) reminds me
of the Norm Biss story about being cheated by Newman:
http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm
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