A little Extra information about DENNIS LEE -

You may be wondering what's going on with what Dennis is offering -Hey, go ahead and hear him out (it's certainly a show you won't forget) - but also hold on to this for that valuable second opinion.  We skeptics can't afford Dennis's 6 figure advertising budget - but you can catch us on the internet.  Go to a public library or get a friend to help you check out: http://www.phact.org/e/z/leelee.htm
 
 

Some things Dennis probably won't tell you:

• He's been promising to deliver free energy machines "in a few months" for the last 13 years - so far he has only delivered excuses.
• He just gave up on a claimed free energy system he said would run on heat from the air. - it was never delivered.
• He's said that OJ is innocent, he's been in a UFO, God tells him stuff like to change his name to Josiah David,
• Lot's of his frustrated dealers from many years back are looking to sell their dealerships - some very cheaply
• Dennis controls the flow of information so tightly he won't let his dealers talk to each other. - he's like a cult leader.
• Dennis got into trouble with the law for passing bad checks way before he got into free energy.
• Pat Robertson lost $150,000 on an earlier MLM scheme of Dennis's. Dennis plead guilty to charges in California.
• Many people like Dennis have been promising free energy machines for 100's of years - they talk of God and conspiracy too.
• Dennis ignores James Randi's offer of one million dollars for proof of a free energy machine.
• Dennis has sold communist-made Browns gas machines that are dangerous, extremely heavy, unreliable and use 50 amps.
• BWT has always been connected to the grid and pays large electric bills. These shows are illuminated from grid electricity.
• A huge proportion of Dennis's money and effort just goes to getting new money in to replace old.
• The CRD device has failed for the last 50 years - multiple independent tests have shown it to only consume energy.
• His shows run up to 5 hours long, he gets mostly old people when they can't think straight with "tonight only" deals.

A few points to remember during the show:

• When you hear "God" and "money" in the same breath - it's probably money that doing the talking.
• Why should Dennis sell power savings devices if he has free energy?  Keep an open mind and a closed wallet.
• The effect of the slow descending magnet is easily explainable from the same REAL science behind motors and generators.
• Water is a very different thing from the gases it's made from. -it doesn't burn!  Don't be distracted by the fast double talk.
• The only significant question is:  "Does Dennis have a Free Energy Machine?" - expect real proof --

Some fun questions to ask Dealers: responses from Dennis's people are in red

• What independent test organizations have certified your devices overunity? Why didn't the inventor of the CRD get it working? None of your business
• Is the Tennessee Attorney General correct that Dennis had arrests in NJ for fraud, forgery and drug related offensives? (Note: Dennis says the drugs were arthritis medication)Arrests do not equate to convictions.  Read the book, Eric makes it like Dennis hides his past.  He tells it all and does not hide.  The guilty flee, not the innocent.
• Is the free electricity machine UL approved? ( this takes months to get and most townships require this for installed equipment)When we install the equipment it will have everything necessary and by the way, UL is a testing facility and cannot be required by any governmental agency
• Did Y2K destroys the nation's infrastructure like Dennis predicted?  Dennis said nothing of the sort.
• If you have free energy - then why bother to sell devices to reduce someone's power bill?Gee Eric, since we will make money on the excess power that is sold, don't you think we will want the homes to have the best possible efficiencies, and since all the homes won't be involved, everyone else needs to save.
• Didn't Dennis say he had every right and the expertise to make the Fischer engine work with out Fischer?Yes but that would not be ethical!
• Why did Dennis make you all pay to have ads about the CRD device across America in 1999 only to drop it? No one paid for pictures, I EMAILED them for free!!!
• Did Herbert Clark who lost 38,000$ to you in 1978 every get his money back?  How many people have lost everything? The only people who have lost money is those who don't want to work their dealerships or those who have quit.
• Why do Tom Valentine, Bo Gritz, Rev Rus Bixler, Paul Pantone, George Wiseman and lots of Dennis's former cohorts all consider him and crook?  - each of those people knows multiple people who have lost fortunes.None of these people have EVER been involved with this project so I guess they are a lot like you, armchair critics.  People like you say anything you want.
• If the Fisher engine you spent millions on worked, why did you drop it?   Will you do the same to the CRD in 10 years?Eric whatever unit we finally come out with, no one will care that it is not Fischers, only that it works.
• What about people who signed up for free electricity 1996?  What about all the other people promising free energy machines?I don't know about "other people", we will deliver to everyone signed up in 96, before and after.  Also, if someone else has technology that does this, they are not our enemy and we would do everything to assist them!
• didn't all the dealers who sponsored the 99 tour lose money? With the help of people like you and the lies of the BBB that tour wasn't the greatest.  Don't it make you feel proud to hurt the people that you say you care about Eric?
• Are any dealers making money selling advanced registrations? (many can't give them away) They are not supposed to make any money on advanced registrations.
• didn't Dennis fail to make the dealers money back by suing "Good Morning America" as promised? Then you would criticize him for that.  You may deserve it, but we are about building, not destroying like you!
• do any welding shops at all use browns gas? No, people that cut do though! (actually , I can't find any who do) Look harder!

Dennis's excuses for avoiding real proof of free energy during tours like this:

 

"needs a few adjustments, how about next week?"	"Sorry, more bad guys stopped me"
"sell other stuff first to not collapse economy"	" . . there, 5 seconds running - see, it works"
"pay no heed to the batteries or power cord running up to it"	"trust my meters, we have no time for yours"
"here's hours of theory, to explain how it works"	"can't show it, because someone may steal it"
"God just told me not to show it after all"	"I have to solve the nuclear waste problem first"
"I'll give big business one last chance to join me"	"I've already demonstrated it plenty of times!"
"you wouldn't believe your eyes anyhow"	"God wants us to have faith it will work"
"must haggle with inventor before I can put it out"	"first give me more money, then I'll show you"

Extraordinary Claims Need Extraordinary Proof - This message brought to you by
some members of the Philadelphia Association for Critical Thinking: http://www.phact.org

• A real demonstration of free energy should have a machine no covers or connected wires on a raised clear plexiglass frame, lighting banks of bright light bulbs continuously for hours (not seconds) with trained independent engineers making measurements. Such precautions are perfectly reasonable considering the long history of free energy and perpetual motion fraud. Dennis has not responded to independent offers to confirm his claims.
• Past investors in GEET will tell you it's a scam.  The gas motor running with no load for 2 minutes will only burn the gas in the line - not the crap poured in later. The 1 HP motor barely turning off a 9V battery is not doing 1 HP of work.  Be aware that NYC-area con men like Dennis have long preyed on small rural people.   The torch on the radioactive material only puts dangerous oxidized radioactive dust in the air which can give you cancer (leave immediately if he does that).  The Browns Gas torch is not UL approved and is far more expensive than others on the market.  Dennis Lee has been known to tell his cult-like followers to max out their credit cards and cash in college funds to send him more money.   A former associate of Dennis's, Jim Murray says Dennis asked him to fake electrical measurements in order to sucker investors. - Please pass this along to others

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• The following is a general message to dealers

Dennis doesn't mention the 200+ year history of people losing money on phony free energy claims. Other "free energy messiahs" also have been known to target Christians, only produce promises and excuses, mix in politics and religion, switch causes, claim deity channeling, hide behind conspiracy claims and get in protracted battles. (i.e.. Joe Newman is still taking investor money after 20 years with out valid proof.)
James Randi offered Dennis Lee over $1,000,000 just for simple proof of what was to have been installed nation wide. Dennis has run a foul of Pat Robertson, Tesla society people, the law enforcement community, skeptics, newspaper investigators, businessmen, internet people, and many current dealers. If he has a real free energy machine as promised, we all should help him - but if not, investors deserve to know so they can get on with their lives. The MAIN claim that motivated dealers to write checks is the free energy machines. You could of sold power plugs, fire retardents and fertilizers with out buying a dealership- Don't be distracted by the other ordinary products which have questionable proof, disputed ownership, limited application, inflated prices, and history of past failures in the market place.
There are a number of open prizes for proof of free energy but, all the free energy messiahs out there today avoid such open tests. Dennis has been breaking promises to have open free energy demonstrations for about 10 years (before that, he was charged with fraud for several unrelated scams) So far, any demonstrations just use conventional stored energy to generate power for just a few seconds. Don't be fooled such a lame demonstration. An extraordinary claim needs extraordinary proof.  scheduled for July 12. Dennis is an excellent salesman with pathological optimism who is able to convince people to trust him. Dennis makes many serious scientific errors in his presentations. Many scientists and engineers have long told him his theory is fatally flawed. There seem to be no trained scientists or engineers willing to openly argue in favor of Dennis's theories.
People should be skeptical when hearing "God" and "Money" in the same breath. Dennis (like Do, Koresh, Jim Jones and Moon) has claimed to receive regular revelations directly from God (he's also claimed to "write in tongues"). But the bible warns us to beware of false profits ;) Cult leaders all demand huge amounts of money, preach belief in a conspiracy against the cult, make endless grandiose promises to loyal members, hold marathon training/recruiting sessions, strongly attack unbelievers, hold strange political views, are self educated and have big run ins with the law or main stream society. It looks questionable when he has people sign away legal rights after midnight for a "tonight only" deal. see Math 7:15-20, 24:24, 2Cor 11:18-21 Please pass this on to other dealers.
But it's exciting to keep hearing Dennis's amazing claims and it's easier to wishfully hope that one of his claims will pay out than deal with the possibility of having been scammed. Bo Gritz has said on his radio show "as far as I can see,  Dennis Lee is a con man"

For more unofficial information on Lee: contact the NJ BBB or the Christian Broadcasting Network, or the Utah Deseret News Also, find a high school kid to get information on the internet from: http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html For free information by mail, send a self addressed stamped envelope to "the Other side of BWT" Box 1131 North Wales PA 19454

--- some of the lessons learned:

• lessons in life (the kinds not found in text books):
• The law moves slowly after criminals.
• Don't sign if: it's after midnight, you haven't heard a 2nd side, you are asked to sign away legal rights, you are looking to get rich quick, don't understand lots of jargon.
• Promises can go a long way, as long as wishful thinking holds sway.
• Most people aren't willing to help expose what they know is wrong.
• It's possible to have schizophrenic delusions of grandeur and still function.
• Someone appearing to have integrity may still not be right.
• Lots of unverified rumors don't add up to truth.
• Things that sound too good to be true probably are.
• Most people keep quiet about being ripped off.
• A well publicized scam can work even if only 1% of the solicited get suckered.
• The main stream media won't always investigate scams.
• We all crave hope and exciting news.
• People would rather cling to a faint glow of hope than admit losses.
• An experienced huckster will have answers to everything.
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The following is Dennis's list of excuses not to demonstrate:
-many are used by other free energy messiahs- -many of these excuses are used by Joe Newman

• "needs a few adjustments, how about next week?"
• "Sorry, more bad guys stopped me"
• "sell other stuff first to not collapse economy"
• " . . there, 5 seconds running - see, it works"
• "pay no heed to the power cord running up to it"
• "trust my meters, we have no time for yours"
• "here's hours of theory, to explain how it works"
• "can't show it, because you may steal it"
• "God just told me not to show it after all"
• "I have to solve the nuclear waste problem first"
• "must locate Victor Fisher before I can start making them"
• "first give me more money, then I'll show you"
• "I'll give big business one last chance to join me"
• "I've already demonstrated it plenty of times!"
• "you wouldn't believe your eyes anyhow"
• "God is making it not work to teach us to have faith"
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The following is a list of untruths that Dennis has told:

Dennis’s claim	The real truth
Dennis has claimed that no one debates his input/output power demonstration.	Many people have tested his stuff and found it underunity.
He has said it is free to sign up for free electricity.	No – you really have to pay to at least join some club to do it.

 

 

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