Re: Walking on water

Steve Sufian ( (no email) )
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:57:55 -0500

Jerry,
There are many documented (witnessed) cases of saints flying: Teresa of
Avila, St Francis, St Joseph of Kupertino, Milerepa of Tibet are among them.
These accounts are quite credible to me.

Anent a previous exchange we had, to make sure I wasn't misunderstood, when
I said it was obvious to me in group flying situations that no one
practicing the TM-Sidhi Program was levitating, I meant that they were not
hovering. They were certainly lifting off the ground--a few inches, a few
feet. Some, for example, myself, hang briefly for enough of time to create a
sensation of hovering. But, of course, this is not the popular image of
levitation.

Do look into the accounts of flying saints. I don't have references at hand,
but I will send you some when I retrieve them.
Regards,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry W. Decker <jdecker@keelynet.com>
To: <interact@keelynet.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Walking on water

> Hi Folks!
>
> Got this interesting email response that I am posting as
> anonymous to the list;
>
> > You wrote:
> > Re: Walking on water
> > From: Jerry W. Decker
> > Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:57:22
> >
> > ================================================
> > Hi Folks!
> >
> > Now that the subject has arisen, the trance state of the
> > Lung-Gom-Pa comes to mind as a means to reduce weight which
> > could allow walking on water; which brings up the related claim of
> > levitation by Simon Magus when he was reported to have flown over
> > the city of Rome. I found a document a few years ago claiming to
> > be a translation by his followers of how he accomplished the
> > flight over the city. It had to do with breathing the air closest to
the
> > earth for a period of time.
> >
> > The idea being that the earth was more electrically negative
> > and so would suffuse the body and the cells with negatively
> > charged air which, by virtue of like charges repelling would
> > cause repulsion and reduce weight, allowing him to vault
> > into the air and fly as long as his body was repellent to
> > the earth.
> >
> > Numerous incidents of levitation have been recorded in
> > Christianity and Islam. Etc, etc, etc.
> > =================================================
>
> > Wow. That is really something!
> >
> > Do you suppose there may have been "drugs" used during Simon
> > Magus' alleged "levitation"? What I mean is, Jerry, that that is the
> > most fantastic story I've ever heard.
> >
> > " I found a document..". What exactly do you mean? Have you
> > tried it? Were you able to levitate? How long is a "period of time"?
> > Where is the evidence?
> >
> > Your quite a story teller, Jerry! Quite a story teller indeed.
> >
>
> It was a document either in a book or on the web, but I
> think it was in a book.
> The idea isn't mine about the negative thing, its what the
> article said....there are numerous references to Simon Magus
> on the net and even the mythical bible says many people
> witnessed Magus flight...so they must have been more Jim
> Jones coolaid converts, but using hallucinogens.....I wasn't
> there so I don't know.
>
> My goal is to look for patterns from many disparate sources
> and approaches, all with the end result of coming up with
> experiments that people can test for themselves...
>
> It would seem this earth sniffing business would be simple
> enough to try...foolish as it might sound....I see no reason
> why air of a certain polarity, breathed over a period of
> time, would not naturally suffuse the cells and could
> produce some kind of effect...but I've not done it...
>
> Like electrical charges do repel, electrons do repel, the
> earth is GENERALLY thought to be electro negative, which is
> why they call it ground, it is known that the higher you go
> in the air, the greater the voltage increases...a positive
> increase too....as measured using the ground as a
> reference....so using that train of logic that I find no
> error with, it could be possible that a person could be come
> electro-negative...
>
> Wait til you see my book...<g>....just thinking about
> it...but it might be fun...the ultimate BS book....but a
> very few might be willing to try different things and see
> what happens...thats how amazing discoveries are
> made...closed minds never grow or learn....and I'm a
> cesspool of open mindedness when it comes to something I can
> rationalize....seeya!
>
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