Sounds good except that no one has been able to describe an
experiment in detail that can be duplicated to explode water
to produce the 29,000 psi in a closed container, then
successfully release the pressure to drive loads. The
closest details which Dan Davidson was told had been
reproduced is the Dr. X experiment that produced a standing
wave in water which dissociated around 42.8khz;
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/docx.htm
Note this reports use of an OPEN chamber. The idea of
exploding dynamite in a closed chamber is intriguing but in
practice I don't think would work. You only have so much
air in the chamber in the first place, so the explosive
force produced in the explosion, if not allowed to escape
and rapidly expand ambient air would be muffled and
dissipate as heat, returning to the same pressure it was in
the first place.
Correct me if this perception is in error, but I've never
found any information documenting this type of experiment,
just playing with firecrackers will show you it won't work.
Put a firecracker in a plastic or glass bottle, light the
fuse, seal the bottle and watch what happens. When you open
the lid a few seconds or a minute after the firecracker has
exploded, you don't get any explosive pressure that should
have built up but is instead released as heat energy.
Now that simple experiment shows WHAT APPEARS to be a
fallacy of storing 29,000 psi of compressed something that
was generated by an explosive force in a sealed container.
Keely complexifies the matter by saying a plasma (not
electrical, more like a thick vapour and even one having a
taffy consistency) is generated, as if the air and/or water
inside the chamber converts to another phase of matter,
which will EXPAND rapidly when allowed to escape.
I have always puzzled over this claim since normal physics
does not lend credence to it and the way Keely's detractors
get around the claim of such high pressures is by saying he
had recalibrated or altered his gauges to not read properly
and thus fool the investors and witnesses. IT IS POSSIBLE
he might have done this. It would be a matter of replacing
the spring with a weaker one so that the dial indicator
would show high pressures when in reality they were quite
low. Simple enough to disprove, use a reference pressure
with his gauge and insert your calibrated gauge in the
circuit so you have verification.
With higher pressures, Keely used very heavy weights
suspended from a metal beam with a piston that lifts this
weight. That way he could calculate how much pressure it
would take to raise a given weight. There is a neat photo
of one of these setups which I need to get online. Hard to
deny the hydraulic pressure when the weight is thrown up
into the air.
Nowadays, I'd think an air motor could be fed this pressure
and either use a prony brake to measure horsepower or a
generator attached to produce current and drive an actual
load until the pressure runs down to nothing. That way, you
could get a fair estimate of useful power.
Check out the Negre air motor automobiles in France;
http://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet/index.html?mID=6929
The automotive companies seem to be looking at hydrogen
engines, though usually a hybrid with gasoline or electric.
If you get 29,000 psi from 3 drops, does that mean you'd get
around 9500 psi from ONE DROP??? If it is scaleable like
that, then even smaller amounts would yield more
controllable pressures that would EXPAND into the piston
chamber to MOVE the piston just like exploding gasoline.
Come to think of it...that could be the answer! Yep, now I
remember, been here before in earlier posts and I forgot
about them...the key is a MOVEABLE PISTON when the explosion
occurs. An extremely strong thrust which would allow the
expansion of the internal air to move the HEAVILY WEIGHTED
piston and capture the force for later bleeding off in a
more controlled manner..
Now that MIGHT work! How about a test?
THIS IS TOTALLY HYPOTHETICAL and I am not recommending
anyone DO THIS as it could be quite dangerous....
Take an air cylinder having a piston with a heavy weight
attached to the end of the piston. Stand it on end so that
the weight will fall downward and push against the piston.
Put in a firecracker or even a blasting cap into a container
that feeds the air cylinder.
Explode the firecracker and the piston arm will lift the
weight which will rise up from the expansion.
The piston arm should remain extended with the weight
pushing down on it to provide pressure which could be bled
off to drive an air motor or other pneumatic load.
If that works, you could attach numerous air cylinders with
weights or one giant air cylinder with a very heavy weight.
Kind of like Tom Beardens idealized 'Final Secret' where
many wires of any length are connected to a power source.
When the switch is thrown, voltmeters attached to each wire
will measure the same voltage. It gets confusing because of
the disparities between current and voltage and not even
taking into account resistance, but the idea is that you get
a slight magnification or augmentation of energy with each
additional wire.
Yet another possible tie in to the electron gyroscopes in
Newmans claims where gravity over a wide coil surface area
will add energy to the electron as mentioned here a couple
of days ago.
It is also much like Keely's claim that one tuning fork in a
room of 1,000 like tuned forks, when struck will cause all
the other forks to resonate.
It then becomes a matter of converting their evoked energy
to useful mechanical or electrical energy. Earlier posts on
this subject suggested attaching magnets to the tines of
each fork with coils wrapped around. This would induce
current from the vibration of the tines and thus allow
production of electrical energy.
Lately, there seems to be multiple synchronistic indications
that tiny effects spread out over a wide surface area are
either hard to detect or not practically useful, however
when there is an accumulation of these tiny effects, we
would get useable energy or phenomena.
catfish@alltel.net wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Heres the idea, I think we need to get back to basics and what we know
> can be reproduced cheaply.
> 29000psi can be gotten from water almost for free so why not use a
> chamber that is 6 inches thick of steel to contain the pressure without
> bursting. The next part gets a little tougher I need to know if anyone has
> seen or has an idea as to how to build a regulator that can handle 29k psi
> and bring it down to a workable level say 5k psi and then use the oldtime
> principal of a simple steam engine to turn the pressure into locomotion
> (no pun intended).
>
> See a four cylinder engine on gasoline produces 100hp lets say and thats
> only firling every other time the piston reaches top dead center.
> Take the same engine and convert it to run like a two stroke (fires
> everything the piston reachs TDC) and then just an electric pressure
> valve to get the 5000psi into each cylinder at the right time and you
> could produce approx 300hp or more from the same cubic inches and without
> the heat or emissions of gasoline.
>
> Just an idea comments welcome.
> I know theres alot to be worked out yet but it is a start
> Terry
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