Re: Spinning wheel O/U claim

Ian Bell ( (no email) )
Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:30:45 +1100

Skeptical Regarding Over Unity Claims.
Do we ignore friction (as we know, friction ,can stop a fully loaded
eighteen wheeler,or a jumbo jet),copper losses,wind resistance,and would
gravity have any bearing,(pardon the pun )on it's efficiency?
Please note that I am fully aware of the potential energy that is stored in
a 50 ton flywheel doing 10,000 RPM. BUT it takes energy to get the flywheel
to start turning.Further, I believe,( without evidence,) that the flywheel
will eventually stop.Unless, further energy is applied.
Can electrons really be created from nothing?
OK, so we have static electricity.But is this O/U?
Speaking of electrons. In a lead acid cell , we do lose energy. The
by-product of electron extraction is the liberation of Hydrogen at the
anode and Oxygen at the cathode. A costly exercise. This phenomenon is a
simple chemical reaction,between the Lead Electrodes and Sulphuric Acid.
SORRY Sulfuric
Acid. Further after 90 days at a temperature of 30 degrees celsuis a
lead/acid cell will undergo self discharge,and be useless for electron
extraction.
Still Skeptical.
Ian Bell

----- Original Message -----
From: SWB <dev@icx.net>
To: <Interact@Keelynet.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: Spinning wheel O/U claim

>
>
> Lawrence Dean Miller wrote:
> >
> > I have always had a scientific skeptical view of O/U devices with
batteries.
> > Would consider if the device ran continuously and output at least 10
times
> > as much energy as is in the capacity of the batteries.
>
> snip
>
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> Amen to that!
>
> Think about it. If a device is truly O/U, then by definition it produces
> enough power to run itself, AND a load. Even if it needed a battery to
> get started, once it was up to speed a voltage regulator would then kick
> in and remove the battery from the circuit, provide enough power for
> itself and a load, and then dump the excess power to ground. The battery
> could then be physically removed from the device, and it would still
> "keep-on-ticking"!
>
> SWB
>
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