Text: Subject: [science-l] Re: Seth on violence ate: 2 Oct 1998 02:27:31 -0000 rom: jowolf@sprynet.com o: Science & Spirituality List Hello Everybody, On 30 Sep 1998, Barry Carter wrote: Dear Friends, . . . . >Here is an appropriate quote from Seth on violence. Quoted from Conversations with Seth, Volume Two,=20 by Sue Watkins, pg. 327 ------------------------------------ Seth regarded Joel for a long moment and his voice turned somber. . . . These are excellent quotes on the subject of violence, Barry. I don't know how ou can crank out so much material in a short time, do you have a scanner or the eth material in digital form? Anyhow, here are some Seth quotes that I had in ind when I mentioned the difference between aggression and violence, and I am yping these manually, more or less slow motion :-(. Quotes from Jane Roberts' "The Nature of Personal Reality", Session 642: "Man has highly charged contradictory attitudes about aggression, and his beliefs bout it cause many of his mass and private problems. . . . n your society and to some extent in others, the natural communication of ggression has broken down. You confuse violence with aggression, and do not nderstand aggression's creative activity or its purpose as a method of ommunication to _prevent_ violence. You deliberately make great effort, in fact, to restrain the communicative lements of aggression while ignoring its many positive values, until its natural ower becomes dammed up, finally exploding into violence. Violence is a istortion of aggression. Birth is an aggressive action - the thrust outward with great impetus of a self rom within a body into a new environment. _Any_ creative idea is aggressive. iolence is _not_ aggressive. It is instead passive surrender to emotion which is ot understood or evaluated, only feared, and at the same time sought. Violence is basically an overwhelming surrender, and in all violence there is a reat degree of suicidal emotion, the antithesis of creativity. Both killer and ictim in a war, for instance, are caught up in the same kind of passion, but the assion is not aggressive. It is its opposite - the desire for destruction. Know that yearning is made up of feelings of despair, caused by a sense of owerlessness, not of power. Aggressiveness leads to action, to creativity and to ife. It does not lead to destruction, violence or annihilation." There are more references to this subject in the Seth literature. He describes, or instance, how animals use long, graduated rituals of aggression that are nderstood by both sides as signals to prevent violence. Joe Wolf ttp://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/jowolf +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Science & Spirituality List : 467 members (public) http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/science-l.html Archive-password: devotion List-Operator: Dale Pond

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