Text: Subject: [science-l] Re: Self and Ego ate: 18 Oct 1998 13:55:08 -0000 rom: Shersy17@aol.com o: Science & Spirituality List In a message dated 98-10-16 14:11:41 EDT, you write: << ON TELL WHAT BOTH YOU IS ERROR? GOD ---------- WHEN ME, SIT SIDE IN>> Dear Replica; There is another passage in the bible worth pondering on: "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you ill be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do ou see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log hat is in your own eye? " t thought it would be interesting to get your comments on the following ritings: Jesus- Man or Myth? "...as one the greatest reformers, an inveterate enemy of every theological ogmatism, a persecutor of bigotry, a teacher of one of the most sublime codes f ethics, Jesus is one of the grandest and most clearly defined figures on he panorama of human history. His age may, with every day, be receding back arther and farther into the gloomy and hazy mists of the past; and his heology--based on human fancy and supported by tenable dogmas may, no, must ith every day lose more of its unmerited prestige; alone the grand figure of he philosopher and moral reformer instead of growing paler will become with very century more pronounced and more clearly defined. It will reign supreme nd universal only on that day when the whole of humanity recognizes but one ather --The UNKNOWN one--and one brother--the whole of mankind below.." Isis Unveiled, Blavatsky, II, 150-1) Jesus..(Hebrew name being Jeshua or Joshua)..was an actual man, or great sage. e was, furthermore, an initiate into the secret doctrine of his period; nd around him, and after his death, grew up legends and tales which were oven in later days--say a century after his death--into the so-called ospels. But who was Jesus? When did he live? When was he born? Did he ever live in act, or was he a myth? Nobody really knows. There is not one single, efinite, conclusive and proving answer to the question -- not a single answer hich is known to be a certainty. The answers to these questions still occupy he attention of not a small army of scholars and students.....behind the loud of uncertainty and the dust of conflicting opinions, we ...discern the ublime teacher of men, his heart full of love and pity for erring mankind, ho passed his life upon earth in instilling elevating teachings into men's earts and minds, and who finally passed away, according to Gospel theory, by uffering the death penalty of crucifixion. The Gospel story is merely an idealized fiction, written by Christian mystics n imitation of esoteric mysteries of the Pagans, showing the initiation rials and tests of the candidates for initiation; and it is not very well one, there being much error and many mistakes in the Gospels. Men do not know the exact date when the four Gospels were written, nor the xact date when the Book of Acts was composed, nor the exact date when the arious Epistles were written and sent forth, nor when the last book called he Apocalypse was composed, supposedly, by St. John on the Isle of Patmos. ven today nobody knows anything about the writers of these various scripts or scriptures" as they are called. The story of Jesus is not new as a type; in essentials it is in large part a epetition in the case of that particular Teacher called Jesus of what other reat seers and sages or avataras or buddhas did and taught; and most these reat figures of history after they died or had vanished, left behind them an ntangled system of symbol, of allegory, usually supposedly in much later ears to be accurate historical records; but such they were not at all. his does not mean that these entangled records, whether in the case of Jesus r in the case of others, were wholly devoid of some actual historical facts r recorded instances, but it does mean that the historical record or actual vents have been so garmented with symbol or so disquised in allegory that hey are difficulty discernible in those enshrouding veils. Jesus the Syrian avatara did not teach anything new. What he did was to point nce again to the old, old pathway to the spiritual life; the pathway to isdom and spiritual power. And he told his followers how and what they might chieve by following this pathway, so that ultimately they could become such s he was -- such as he was so far as wisdom and power went; for in the heart f every human being there is a divinity, his own inner god, which Christians f a mystical turn of mind today call the immanent Christ. Therefore each of you has it within the power of his will and of his choice to ollow this pathway that the great seers and sages of the past ages have rodden, and to become like unto them. This inspiring teaching lay at the asis of the reason for choosing such a great individual and weaving around he legends of his personality as he appeared on earth a mystical tale escribing in symbolic form what took place in the chamber of initiation. Everyone of the these great sages and seers, whether he was the Buddha-Gautama f India, the Lao-Tse of China, or Sankaracharya of India again, or Jesus, or mpedocles, or Pythagorus, or Apollonius of Tyana; any one of the numerous ost of them all taught the same fundamental doctrines which were dentical..."Man, know thyself"..For self-knowledge, the knowledge of the igher spiritual self-- is the pathway of wisdom, of understanding, of light, f peace, of power. Another one of their teachings was that every human being, every entity nywhere, is a child of the universe. The universe is his or its home. A man s de facto as much at home in the starry spaces as he is here on this planet arth, and thus the great seers and sages also taught that it is possible for man to pass from sphere to sphere, from plane to plane, from solar system to olar system, as the cycles of evolution roll by; and that his sojourn on arth is like the putting up a tavern or an inn for a day-night. (Partial writings of G.de Purucker) http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena) I think it most important, Replica, to study all of the many theories and ritings of all great scholars and writers and historians....and the Bible, hile interesting to speculate on...in my opinion, is not to be taken iterally...but as an allegory..keeping in mind that all the lessons we need o learn to live and function in the two worlds of spirit and matter, are ndeed, hidden within the Bible..and of course, it goes without saying..Love ne Another..is the greatest message of all. Your thoughts on the above would be interesting, Replica..and everyone elses nput is greatly appreciated. Love to You, Sherry

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