Text: From: "Walt Maken" Reply-To: WaltMaken@hotmail.com To: tgw0@home.com Subject: Re: Slave or Not Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:12:11 -0500 Ted, I understand and appreciate where you are coming from regarding the use of "natural person". I was once philosophically there myself, and very adamantly so, especially prior to the time of being forced into the "gladiator arena". However, during the last year of being in federal court as the unnamed target of an IRS indictment, I've had an opportunity to come to see the value of using terms as contained in publicly available government documents, as sort of like an extended gauntlet, if you will. I have access to a 1998 United States Code CD-ROM. It is a great tool for research terms cotained in all of the volumes of the USC. You mentioned that "You must become people or party." If you were to submit that in a court document, how would you support that contention? What references would you use? In our educational efforts, I think it's important to back up our statements with easily verifiable references that others can check, particularly if we're trying to help them prepare for any challenge of merit. For your perusal and consideration, I've attached, in both WordPerfect (.wpd) and Word97 (.doc) formats, the results of two separate searches for the term "natural person" as contained in the United States Code. The shortest list is that of 15 references, and the search was limited to 26 & 27 USC. Conspicuous by their absence were any references at all in 27 USC. Since 27 USC is totally connected with 27 CFR and administered by the BATF, the absence of any references at all to a "natural person" in 27 USC may tell us quite a bit. To specifically cite one of the references on the short list, consider the use of "natural person" as shown at 26 USC 141 (b)(6)(B). To further appreciate the point I'll summarize with, I'll need to also include 26 USC 141 (b)(6)(A) as well as (7). 26 USC 141 (b)(6)PRIVATE BUSINESS USE DEFINED-- (A)IN GENERAL--For purposes of this subsection, the term "private business use" means use (directly or indirectly) in a trade or business carried on by any person other than a governmental unit. For purposes of the preceding sentence, use as a member of the general public shall not be taken into account. (B)CLARIFICATION OF TRADE OR BUSINESS--For purposes of the 1st sentence of subparagraph (A), any activity carried on by a person other than a natural person shall be treated as a trade or business. (7) GOVERNMENT USE.-- The term "government use" means any use other than a private business use. I leave the further exploring of the other 14 references on the short list to you. Also attached in a longer list of 187 references show all places in the entire USC (1998 version) where "natural person" is used. The longer list also contains within it the 15 items from the short list. If you will take the time to explore, you may make an interesting discovery or two along the way. But, for now, here is my reasonably brief summary. If you go to my home page ( http://www.Angelfire.com/oh4/befree ) and scroll down to where I mention that I've been asked where one starts in order to begin confronting the lies and fraud. Click on the link to my answer and as you read the answer you will see that I encourage people to begin by obtaining copies of both the federal Constitution as well as their state Constitution. Why? Because it is a well-understood and accepted principle of law that it is a bona fide Constitution which provides for any bona fide exercise of power by any public servant, regardless of what lever. From the lowliest new clerk, to the "President of the United States". They all take oaths of office to uphold the Constitutions. So, that, then, becomes the first gauntlent that any public servant must surmount before they can exercise any bona fide authority or enforce any bona fide penalty against any of the people they have taken their oath of office to serve. The Constitution of Ohio, puts the matter in very plain, easy-to-understand terms: Article I, Section 2, states: "All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their equal protection and benefit [not for the benefit of the public servants] ..." Article I, Section 20 very clearly states: "This enumeration of rights shall not be construed to impair or deny others retained by the people, and all powers, not herein delegated, remain with the people." The bottom line is, if a public servant cannot cite you a chain of bona fide, written, delegation of authority right on back to a specific section of a Constitution as a basis for what they are doing, they simply do not have any bona fide authority to be doing it. But if people have never taken the time and trouble to study the Constitutions, it is no wonder the public servants try getting away with all kinds of outrageous behaviour. Ignorant people don't know any better, and thus are unable to properly exercise their "inherent political power". Now, during the last 7-1/2 years of my research efforts into the lies and fraud of the IRS, et al, I have studied into the matters of the yellow fringe flag, "person", crossing the bar, etc., etc. And my research efforts have shown that there is a certain amount of valid merit in the conclusions that have been brought forward about those and other similar subjects. However, my researches have also shown that there is so much that is contained in the Constitutions, as well as the United States Code, Code of Federal Regualations, etc., etc., that the public servants routinely, and in many cases willfully, ignore, that we do not have to even get into the other areas in order to raise bona fide issues of challenge. Begin with those requirements that are simply and plainly stated in easy to understand language. For example, the Constitution of Ohio plainly states, the following: Article II, Section 15(B): The style of the laws of this state shall be, "be it enacted by the General Assembly of the state of Ohio." [Note that it does not say "be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Ohio." Why not? ] Article III, Section 13: All grants and commissions shall be issued in the name, and by the authority, of the state of Ohio; sealed with the great seal; signed by the governor countersigned by the secretary of state. [Note that it does not say "and by the authority, of the State of Ohio". Why not?] Article IV, Section 20: The style of all process shall be, "The state of Ohio;" all prosecutions shall be carried on, in the name, and by the authority, of the state of Ohio; and all indictments shall conclude, "against the peace and dignity of the state of Ohio." [Note that nowhere does it say "State of Ohio", it always says "state of Ohio". ] Why is it important whether the term "state" is used rather than "State"? Check out the following: http://www.Angelfire.com/oh4/befree/M_ILTJS2.html http://www.Angelfire.com/oh4/befree/M_ILTJS3.html and also http://www.Angelfire.com/oh4/befree/uscitizen.html

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