Re: Bedini hand drawn motor plan

Jerry W. Decker ( (no email) )
Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:22:52 -0600

Hi Folks!

This was in response to a private email saying this was all
a waste of time, that it was using known principles and
would simply waste peoples time and money. I don't agree IN
THE LEAST.

I must admit, there are a lot of discrepancies with this
design and I don't know where the idea came from that it WAS
overunity, there was no indication of anything other than a
highly efficient design.

Yes, the 4000 rpm has to be a typo...it would fling itself
apart....but I still maintain it is not being presented as
any kind of overunity device....I don't think people will
spend a lot of time on this as it is so simple...its the
ones that cost a lot of money and require a lot of
expertise, then fail that are to be avoided...these simple
experiments certainly don't hurt anything in my view..

Its a GOOD thing when anyone gets some basic lab experience,
no matter WHAT they are working on and if it works, fine, if
it doesn't, THEN CHANGE IT to get it to work like the
Italian guy did by adding the reed switch.

Not everyone is jaded and calloused from years and years of
working with electronics or motors, having 'been there' and
'done that'...many HAVE NOT, so I don't agree that
enthusiasm and interest should be quenched by saying its all
a waste of time, NOTHING will come of it.

Just because one person or even a group fails to find the
overunity grail in all their investigations, it just means
that their blinders or views are blocking them from noticing
some novel effect or phenomena that, ONCE OBSERVERED and
recognized, might lead to an answer, so the more people who
are looking, the better the chances of INEVITABLE
discovery.

Will they be able to reproduce the simple effect and can
they document it sufficiently that OTHERS can duplicate
their successes...that is the trick.

I was just talking with an engineer friend about this
transistor business and he agrees the spikes from the coil
using unspecified magnets with varying gauss ratings, could
easily take out the transistor..so a mosfet would be much
more efficient...

Personally, I don't agree with the battery thing as being
necessary for a free energy device using some mystical
chemical process whether it is ringing or whatever....it is
way too suspect if a battery MUST be involved and I think
capacitors should do the same job if chemistry isn't the
ONLY key.

There is one thing that could be related to this...the
reason batteries 'die' is because the plates become
sulphated over time and lose their charge capacity..you can
scrape the plates or apply a chemical that will remove the
sulphation though by using a 3.3 mhz freq in a specific
waveshape, you can cause the sulphates to redissolve back
into the sulfuric acid, thus cleaning the plates
electronically.

In the case of EVGRAY, he uses the 60-120 amp PULSES to
recharge the battery which quite possibly removes the
sulphation to keep a max charge capacity...

The last thing I want to do is say this is overunity,
however, the FIRST THING is to get people wired enough to DO
AN EXPERIMENT....possibly for some it is a tinkertoy
experiment that will yield nothing of use but many people
have NEVER built or tried anything and WILL NOT thinking and
believing that it all has to be complex, expensive and
require great technical knowledge.

To promote the complexity or claim there is some 'secret'
that cannot be revealed and keep people from even trying an
experiment is a very negative and bad thing as it obfuscates
the wonder of experimentation and building something ON YOUR
OWN...to see it work and to be inspired enough to make
changes that could reveal some secret that others have
missed.

So, take this circuit as a slot car motor running on a 9vdc
battery, it might run 2-5 hours before the battery runs
down....now use this design, now it runs 5 days....THATS A
WONDER IN ANYONES BOOK!!!

Completely unexpected, completely novel....and
'impossible'....I'm FAR from calloused enough to just blow
all this off as nothing...its wonderful stuff,
its NOT free energy, but its not being promoted as free
energy either....AND it MIGHT LEAD TO IT...so I plan to hype
it in hopes people will try it, even as a desktop toy...its
fascinating...

But the plans certainly need to be corrected and cleaned up
for accuracy...and I or anyone else can certainly do that by
actually BUILDING IT, PROVING IT, then documenting the
results so the mystery is removed and anyone can build it
and use it as they will.

In summation, I find it disturbing when even such simple
experiments are written off as not worthy of looking into
(never having been built because 'its a waste of time and
money') by anyone just because someone with experience had
long since done that and nothing came of it.

In addition, a much bigger problem is where everything is
presented as highly complex, requiring great deals of money,
time and technical expertise which OF COURSE scares people
away from trying anything.

EVERY SINGLE EXPERIMENT AND USEFUL DISCOVERY HINGES ON
OBSERVATION OF A SIMPLE PHENOMENON. - Jerry W.
Decker/KeelyNet

Inventors are not going to just give out that simple
phenomenon. How can they capitalize on it? Look at
EVGRAY...he built a complex motor that did what?

COMPOUNDED the phenomenon into multiple bursts to produce
rotation in his motors as shown in his complex patent...all
based on the simple fact of two high voltage coils repulsing
each other with great force.

So, its all these little, innocent, weak phenomena that can
be SCALED UP for useful applications and THAT is why we
should do everything we can to promote experiment and
investigation and BUILDING to look for such phenomena,
duplicate it, document it, then it can be SCALED UP and
COMPOUNTED to become entirely new industries.

--             KeelyNet - From an Art to a Science        Jerry W. Decker - http://www.keelynet.com/discussion archives http://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet/KeelyNet - PO BOX 870716 - Mesquite, TX 75187 - 214.324.8741

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