Bill McMurtry escribi=F3:
> Hi Jerry,
>
> I know you've got a lot to chew on at the moment, but I
find myself
> irresistably drawn on the topic of these little motors
<g>.
>
> The Adams motor is almost exactly the same as John's
motor. In fact the
> things that John talked about in his Bedini free-energy
motor booklet were
> exactly the same as the things Old Adams talked to me
about, back in '92 -
> '93. The whole point of the excercise back then was to
create a condition in
> the BATTERY that caused it to remain charged - the
motor/generator was just
> a means to accomplish that task. Remember in John's
little book where he
> could'nt stress enough the importance of achieving
electric shock
> oscillation (ringing) of the battery terminals? The
battery was the whole
> point of the excercise, I tell you! <g>.
Really, the Adams motor do use of the back spike to double the impulse,
switching
the coil in attractive mode and, when the magnet of the rotor is almost
in line
with the coil, turn off the coil to do use of the back spike for
repulsive impulse.
I can't see that effect in the Bedini motor. And Bedini used bifilar
coils in
your motors and Adams not.
You are right with the battery thing, though. The same John say to
Bearden
(at least Bearden wrote that in his new online book) what the motor is
really
only a load and the battery and the switching time are the nucleus of
your
generators, adding an intricate explanation on the internal functioning
of
the batteries.
> What's happened since then? Not a lot... a) It can be
proved that torque
> output power is never greater than input power, unless
by measurement error;
> b) Everyone has trouble replicating the 'battery charge
effect'.
>
> Point a) is kind of self evident, based on present
knowledge, experience,
> and lack of a single demonstration to prove otherwise.
>
> The battery charge effect is obviously difficult to
achieve. Why? Why is no
> one discussing it, instead of this distraction with the
magnets, coils,
> rotors, etc? Sure, a 10 year old kid can build a very
low input power motor
> that runs for 5 days straight on a 9 volt battery, and
she'll probably learn
> heaps about electric motors and generators in the
process, great. I've done
> that too, but what about free-energy or over-unity?
I think the thing here is the lower consumption when you put a load in
that motor.
If the load are not reflexed in the rotor as back torque then you can
put a lot
of gen coils to get more power than what is consumed in the power
supply, as Jerry say.
> Years ago Bedini produced another booklet involving
experiments with
> batteries, switches and loads. The Brandt/Tesla switch
appeared to drive a
> load while maintaining, and even elevating, its battery
voltage. It was very
> exciting at the time <g>. The same problems with
replication were
> encountered. Battery problems again.
>
> Fact: Only certain batteries will work in these systems,
due to some unknown
> variable.
>
> Question: What is the variable?
>
> IMO, it is somewhat misleading for John to suggest that
the difficulties
> encountered with replication are because enthusiasts do
not follow the
> provided construction details. Then adding insult to
injury, complain that
> we must be lacking because a 10 year old girl can do it!
I agree with John
> on one point, if a 10 year old can do it, so can anyone.
But what's a low
> power motor got to do with Free-energy and over-unity
and efficiency?
> Without the 'battery charge effect' in the picture -
Nothing!
Obviously, the motor build by the girl is not the case. It's the load
not
reflexed as back torque, I think.
Greetings, Juan.
> Geez Jerry, I wish SOMEONE would come clean on this one,
and step on it.
> It's dead but its still jigglin' <g>. BATTERIES!!!
>
> Regards, Bill.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry W. Decker <jdecker@keelynet.com>
> To: <interact@keelynet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Bedini hand drawn motor plan
>
> > Hi Bill et al!
> >
> > Well, the kids pictures certainly don't match the
> > diagram...but hey, who will know if no one builds it.
> >
> > I plan on using some flat magnets from radio
shack..since I
> > have a few from the TOMI trials..<g>..
> >
> > If you look on Bedini's notes page, he indicates a 3
pound
> > flywheel is what is rotating...so I plan to just build
the
> > 10 year old thing first, using a tricycle wheel with
the
> > magnets attached in four places. That way, it has the
> > bearing/bushing and a shaft would be easy...
> >
> > In the one I'm planning, the wheel won't be connected
to the
> > shaft as his diagram indicates should be done...its
really
> > interesting because you could put those generator
coils all
> > around the circumference, either light a circular path
of
> > LEDS or connect the outputs into a capacitor, possibly
> > through a dual diode...then drain the capacitor as
needed...
> >
> > Anyway, to my view it is the EVGRAY coil but without
the
> > high voltage...have to see what kind of spike that
looks
> > like on a scope as the wheel passes through the
trigger coil
> > that drives the transistor...
> >
> > We know that any coil that is switched will produce
high
> > intensity spikes from relatively low voltages and
> > currents....the principle of the toy shockers.
> >
> > Anyway, I certainly don't plan to obsess over it...no
jibes
> > intended, but I do think the only way we'll understand
it is
> > to build...
> >
> > I never bought the IBM myth of plug and play...
> >
> > I detest the dummying down of computer science to
microsoft
> > as some kind of bible, where they claim owenership
(hmmmm,
> > sounds familiar) by renaming a reboot as a 'restart'
and
> > directories as 'folders'....
> >
> > Nothing comes easy that is worthwhile so if we just
spit and
> > sputter about the lack of details in the plans, then
we are
> > just wasting time and need to call the 10 year
old..<g>...
> >
> > Got a LOT OF BUBBLE GUM to chew these days that will
be of
> > interest when we are ready to make it public, but for
now,
> > this is one thing that looks so simple to build, I
can't
> > imagine an excuse for not doing it....then again,
> > remembering how we had all that TOMI information and
never
> > lifted a finger to build it until a friend did it,
called me
> > all excited and I did it, then we posted our dual
results
> > and a LOT of people did it....and it worked as
stated...
> >
> > Anyway, enough...the coil windings should be zapped
near the
> > magnet and measure the amount of thrust
generated...but I
> > LOVE this self triggering transistor...
> >
> > Seeya!
> >
> >
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