Chuck Henderson wrote:
> Hi Chris et al,
>
> I am not certain, and perhaps Jerry can verify
> one way or the other, but I beleive that this device
> is one that Hal Putoff was trying to validate as being
> over unity. The results that Hal came up with were
> negative for OU. I haven't seen anything recentlly
> about the device, save for DM's recent post to the
> list.
>
> Later...
>
> Chuck...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Lautre <C_Lautre@emt.ee>
> To: <Interact@keelynet.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:52 AM
> Subject: RE: James Griggs: O/U heating device on the market?
>
> > Hi there all
> > Yes I have met Griggs and have tried to get a licence to manufacture these
> > pumps under licence here in Eastern Europe.
> >
> > I believe they work and was in the process of getting a demo system built
> > and sent here
> > to convice companies who were interrested in buying into the licence.
> >
> > Initially I wanted to know approximately how much it would be so that I
> > would not be waisting peoples time if it was way too rich for me.
> > Griggs said that the licence would be in the US$100 K ball park.
> > after some discussions a rough contract was sent to me with a price of
> > US$750K
> > plus minimum anual fees of about US$50K to US$100K.
> >
> > I gave it all up as just totally over the top for an undeveloped country
> > with a population of 1.5 million.
> > If you scaled up the annual charges by 100 times as a very conservative
> > ratio to the US economy then they should be doing over a billion worth of
> > business in the states now.
> >
> > I just can't believe these inventors who have something good but just want
> > to milk
> > it for all they can get. If they believed in their product I would be
> happy
> > to pay a reasonable percentage of sales but they want millions up front.
> > Then they are surprised when companies are not interrested.
> >
> > I hope it is working somewhere and there are huge opertunities in the
> paper
> > industries and
> > heating industries for this product as one of the key advantages is that
> > there is NO Scaling.
> > In some paper manufacturing processes the heat exchangers work at an
> > average of about 50% efficiency and have to be dismantled for de-scaling
> > regularly.
> >
> > Just my experience
> >
> > Regards to all
> >
> > Chris Lautre
> >
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: DMBoss1021@aol.com[SMTP:DMBoss1021@aol.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 3:02 PM
> > > To: Interact@keelynet.com
> > > Subject: James Griggs: O/U heating device on the market?
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Found this article on alternative science web site:
> > >
> > > http://www.alternativescience.com/over-unity.htm
> > >
> > > It is titled: "Shock waves and steam heat"
> > > >>
> > > For more than two years debate has raged on the Internet about an
> > > ordinary-looking metal drum sitting on the concrete floor of a factory
> > > building in Rome, Georgia, 50 miles from Atlanta. Its inventor, the man
> > > about
> > > whom the Internet debate is raging, is James Griggs, an industrial
> heating
> > >
> > > engineer.
> > >
> > > The invention that has brought Griggs such notoriety is a device that he
> > > began developing in 1987, that he calls the 'Hydrosonic Pump' and that
> > > many
> > > of his supporters believe is over-unity, in that it generates around 30
> > > per
> > > cent more energy as heat than is put in as electricity.
> > > <<
> > >
> > > Apparently it works well enough that it has been installed in various
> > > local
> > > government buildings in or around his home town.
> > >
> > > >>
> > > In a second test, during which the over-unity effect was measured, the
> > > adjusted co-efficient of power was a remarkable 168 per cent -- the
> > > machine
> > > produced 1.68 times the energy that was input. A third test did nearly
> as
> > > well with a Co-efficient of power of 157 per cent.
> > >
> > > If the only evidence for these claims were the colour brochure printed
> by
> > > Griggs's company, Hydro Dynamics Corporation Inc., and reports of his
> > > supporters, then most observers might be inclined to side with the
> > > skeptics:
> > > Griggs's claims seem fundamentally improbable. Yet surprisingly, Griggs
> > > has
> > > not only patented his device and started manufacturing a commercial
> > > version
> > > on a small scale, he has also sold and installed devices to users in the
> > > Atlanta area.
> > >
> > > The customers include the Atlanta Police Department, a fire station, a
> dry
> > >
> > > cleaning plant, and a gymnasium. Interestingly, the Hydrosonic pump was
> > > installed in the public buildings by the county engineer after
> evaluating
> > > the
> > > device. The buildings are using the device mainly for heating purposes,
> > > and
> > > they have been running for more than a year. The customers have bills
> from
> > >
> > > their local electric utility company showing a year on year decrease in
> > > bills
> > > equivalent to 30 per cent.
> > > <<
> > >
> > > Anyone seen any other info on this device/process?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > DMBoss1021
> > >
> > >
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