I am not certain, and perhaps Jerry can verify
one way or the other, but I beleive that this device
is one that Hal Putoff was trying to validate as being
over unity. The results that Hal came up with were
negative for OU. I haven't seen anything recentlly
about the device, save for DM's recent post to the
list.
Later...
Chuck...
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Lautre <C_Lautre@emt.ee>
To: <Interact@keelynet.com>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: James Griggs: O/U heating device on the market?
> Hi there all
> Yes I have met Griggs and have tried to get a licence to manufacture these
> pumps under licence here in Eastern Europe.
>
> I believe they work and was in the process of getting a demo system built
> and sent here
> to convice companies who were interrested in buying into the licence.
>
> Initially I wanted to know approximately how much it would be so that I
> would not be waisting peoples time if it was way too rich for me.
> Griggs said that the licence would be in the US$100 K ball park.
> after some discussions a rough contract was sent to me with a price of
> US$750K
> plus minimum anual fees of about US$50K to US$100K.
>
> I gave it all up as just totally over the top for an undeveloped country
> with a population of 1.5 million.
> If you scaled up the annual charges by 100 times as a very conservative
> ratio to the US economy then they should be doing over a billion worth of
> business in the states now.
>
> I just can't believe these inventors who have something good but just want
> to milk
> it for all they can get. If they believed in their product I would be
happy
> to pay a reasonable percentage of sales but they want millions up front.
> Then they are surprised when companies are not interrested.
>
> I hope it is working somewhere and there are huge opertunities in the
paper
> industries and
> heating industries for this product as one of the key advantages is that
> there is NO Scaling.
> In some paper manufacturing processes the heat exchangers work at an
> average of about 50% efficiency and have to be dismantled for de-scaling
> regularly.
>
> Just my experience
>
> Regards to all
>
> Chris Lautre
>
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: DMBoss1021@aol.com[SMTP:DMBoss1021@aol.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 3:02 PM
> > To: Interact@keelynet.com
> > Subject: James Griggs: O/U heating device on the market?
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Found this article on alternative science web site:
> >
> > http://www.alternativescience.com/over-unity.htm
> >
> > It is titled: "Shock waves and steam heat"
> > >>
> > For more than two years debate has raged on the Internet about an
> > ordinary-looking metal drum sitting on the concrete floor of a factory
> > building in Rome, Georgia, 50 miles from Atlanta. Its inventor, the man
> > about
> > whom the Internet debate is raging, is James Griggs, an industrial
heating
> >
> > engineer.
> >
> > The invention that has brought Griggs such notoriety is a device that he
> > began developing in 1987, that he calls the 'Hydrosonic Pump' and that
> > many
> > of his supporters believe is over-unity, in that it generates around 30
> > per
> > cent more energy as heat than is put in as electricity.
> > <<
> >
> > Apparently it works well enough that it has been installed in various
> > local
> > government buildings in or around his home town.
> >
> > >>
> > In a second test, during which the over-unity effect was measured, the
> > adjusted co-efficient of power was a remarkable 168 per cent -- the
> > machine
> > produced 1.68 times the energy that was input. A third test did nearly
as
> > well with a Co-efficient of power of 157 per cent.
> >
> > If the only evidence for these claims were the colour brochure printed
by
> > Griggs's company, Hydro Dynamics Corporation Inc., and reports of his
> > supporters, then most observers might be inclined to side with the
> > skeptics:
> > Griggs's claims seem fundamentally improbable. Yet surprisingly, Griggs
> > has
> > not only patented his device and started manufacturing a commercial
> > version
> > on a small scale, he has also sold and installed devices to users in the
> > Atlanta area.
> >
> > The customers include the Atlanta Police Department, a fire station, a
dry
> >
> > cleaning plant, and a gymnasium. Interestingly, the Hydrosonic pump was
> > installed in the public buildings by the county engineer after
evaluating
> > the
> > device. The buildings are using the device mainly for heating purposes,
> > and
> > they have been running for more than a year. The customers have bills
from
> >
> > their local electric utility company showing a year on year decrease in
> > bills
> > equivalent to 30 per cent.
> > <<
> >
> > Anyone seen any other info on this device/process?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > DMBoss1021
> >
> >
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