RE: James Griggs: O/U heating device on the market?

Chris Lautre ( C_Lautre@emt.ee )
Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:52:34 +0200

Hi there all
Yes I have met Griggs and have tried to get a licence to manufacture these
pumps under licence here in Eastern Europe.

I believe they work and was in the process of getting a demo system built
and sent here
to convice companies who were interrested in buying into the licence.

Initially I wanted to know approximately how much it would be so that I
would not be waisting peoples time if it was way too rich for me.
Griggs said that the licence would be in the US$100 K ball park.
after some discussions a rough contract was sent to me with a price of
US$750K
plus minimum anual fees of about US$50K to US$100K.

I gave it all up as just totally over the top for an undeveloped country
with a population of 1.5 million.
If you scaled up the annual charges by 100 times as a very conservative
ratio to the US economy then they should be doing over a billion worth of
business in the states now.

I just can't believe these inventors who have something good but just want
to milk
it for all they can get. If they believed in their product I would be happy
to pay a reasonable percentage of sales but they want millions up front.
Then they are surprised when companies are not interrested.

I hope it is working somewhere and there are huge opertunities in the paper
industries and
heating industries for this product as one of the key advantages is that
there is NO Scaling.
In some paper manufacturing processes the heat exchangers work at an
average of about 50% efficiency and have to be dismantled for de-scaling
regularly.

Just my experience

Regards to all

Chris Lautre

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> From: DMBoss1021@aol.com[SMTP:DMBoss1021@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 3:02 PM
> To: Interact@keelynet.com
> Subject: James Griggs: O/U heating device on the market?
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Found this article on alternative science web site:
>
> http://www.alternativescience.com/over-unity.htm
>
> It is titled: "Shock waves and steam heat"
> >>
> For more than two years debate has raged on the Internet about an
> ordinary-looking metal drum sitting on the concrete floor of a factory
> building in Rome, Georgia, 50 miles from Atlanta. Its inventor, the man
> about
> whom the Internet debate is raging, is James Griggs, an industrial heating
>
> engineer.
>
> The invention that has brought Griggs such notoriety is a device that he
> began developing in 1987, that he calls the 'Hydrosonic Pump' and that
> many
> of his supporters believe is over-unity, in that it generates around 30
> per
> cent more energy as heat than is put in as electricity.
> <<
>
> Apparently it works well enough that it has been installed in various
> local
> government buildings in or around his home town.
>
> >>
> In a second test, during which the over-unity effect was measured, the
> adjusted co-efficient of power was a remarkable 168 per cent -- the
> machine
> produced 1.68 times the energy that was input. A third test did nearly as
> well with a Co-efficient of power of 157 per cent.
>
> If the only evidence for these claims were the colour brochure printed by
> Griggs's company, Hydro Dynamics Corporation Inc., and reports of his
> supporters, then most observers might be inclined to side with the
> skeptics:
> Griggs's claims seem fundamentally improbable. Yet surprisingly, Griggs
> has
> not only patented his device and started manufacturing a commercial
> version
> on a small scale, he has also sold and installed devices to users in the
> Atlanta area.
>
> The customers include the Atlanta Police Department, a fire station, a dry
>
> cleaning plant, and a gymnasium. Interestingly, the Hydrosonic pump was
> installed in the public buildings by the county engineer after evaluating
> the
> device. The buildings are using the device mainly for heating purposes,
> and
> they have been running for more than a year. The customers have bills from
>
> their local electric utility company showing a year on year decrease in
> bills
> equivalent to 30 per cent.
> <<
>
> Anyone seen any other info on this device/process?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> DMBoss1021
>
>
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