Re: Water

Michael S. Johnston ( (no email) )
Sun, 05 Dec 1999 07:53:47 -0500

Hi,
Not to diminish this idea but any car battery will produce H2 and O2
gas. That is why the newer ones are sealed. The old ones had removable
caps and if your electrolyte (acid) level was down you could add water
and extend it's life. Of course the more water you added the greater
percentage you had in relation to electrolyte and the more likely that
the battery would create enough gas to be dangerous. I know from first
hand experience because when I was 16 or so I had a battery explode
while I was driving along. Lifted the hood of the car a couple inches
and all. Quite impressive really.
MJ

Robert A. Schader wrote:

> I posted preliminary info on this a couple weeks ago and no
> one seemed to notice. At least no one seemed to want to discuss
> it even though I think it is definitely worth looking into.
> If someone has disproved this method, I would also like to know:
>
> This is a salt-water battery that also generates hydrogen
> with no external power source as long as there is a load
> across the terminals, at least that is what is claimed.
>
> Patents are by a Francisco Pacheco. Following are the abstracts:
>
> Patent No. US 5,089,107
> Title: Bi-Polar Auto Electrolytic Hydrogen Generator
> Abstract:
> An autoelectrolytic hydrogen generator system constituted by one
> or a plurality of similar cells wherein a galvanic arrangement of
> magnesium and aluminum plates of sacrificial elements as anode;
> stainless steel as cathode and sea water as electrolyte, by its
> very nature is made to develop a voltage when connected in short
> circuit causing a current to flow within the system and hydrogen
> production of hydrogen in situ and on demand by the electrolytic
> action at one pole, the cathode, and additional hydrogen by the
> electrochemical reaction at the other pole, the anode. Surplus
> electric energy of the system applied to an optional electrolyzer
> will also be made to produce additional hydrogen at its two
> sacrificial aluminum electrodes.
>
> The earlier one:
> Patent No. US 3,892,653
> Title: Hydrogen Generator
> Abstract:
> A hydrogen generator constituted by a voltaic cell having a
> reactive magnesium electrode and a non-reactive electrode
> immersed in a salt-water electrolytic bath, a load being
> connected between the electrodes to cause a current flow
> in the cell resulting in an electrochemical reaction in
> which the magnesium is decomposed to produce hydrogen and
> in electrolysis in which the water is decomposed to produce
> hydrogen. In order to minimize polarization and other factors
> which diminish the production of hydrogen, the solution is
> circulated through an external flow loop having a pump
> interposed therein to draw the electrolyte from the bottom
> of the bath and to return it to the top thereof, the pump
> being powered by voltage derived from the cell.
>
> This guy supposedly ran both cars and boats off of the hydrogen
> these units generated on water alone. It seems like a excellent
> solution if it actually works.
>
> Bob Schader
> Computer Systems Administrator
> Product Design Intl., Inc.
> bobs@product-des.com
>
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