>At 23:45 07/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Brief intro: my name is Jim March, I'm a computer tech in the SF Bay Area
>>and I'm a halfway decent mechanic.
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>>On a recent motorcycle trip to Arizona I broke down bigtime in the middle
of
>
>Please let me make four points and then a suggestion:
>
>1) You are reliant on third party information (not a criticism but needs to
>be made explicit)
Correct. The gent who saw the thing run is also a computer techie and acts
as a general business partner for the guy. They're involved in real estate
deals together, etc.
>2) If the third party had seen the thing run with the permission of the
>owner then the owner had `disclosed` sufficient information to them for
>them to tell you `the secret` (which you have now made public domain on the
>`net). It is doubtful he did so under a formal nod-disclosure agreement.
OK...but, as business partners I would think that the inventor could discuss
his efforts with his partner?
And I've left out several key details, believe me. I wish to hell I could
tell all and we could get "massed minds" working on it, that's how I
normally operate.
>3) Therefore it will be more difficult for him to patent his discovery,
>particularly in view of the fact this guy is dyslexic and barely literate
>(according to your report to the bladeforum).
Correct. I've met people like him before; in addition to restoring fine old
cars and playing with magnets he's one hell of a good artist and not at all
shabby as an architect. In essence, his "creative centers" are going
full-gonzo and his speech centers are barely functional for conversations.
He *can* indeed write - in 7-meter verse, ONLY, for anything sizable. He
actually published quite a bit that way - you wouldn't think a motorcycle
magazine would be a venue for poetry of any sort but "Easyriders" mag bought
a couple of pieces back in the '70s.
Anyways...guys like this will try and attract a "normal" of some sort to
help them handle the "down to earth parts of living". The one he has seems
to be a decent chap...I acted as the "norm partner" for another guy years
ago whose brain was also "wired weird" in similar fashion; I pegged the guy
in the desert as a serious dyslexic after about 1/2 hour of conversation.
These people are NOT stupid. They're not "linear thinkers", their brains
jump around like wild, they're often dabbling in a whole lotta different
things at once.
If any type of mind is correct for solving overunity problems it's one o'
these dudes <grin!>.
>4) Even if he does get a patent, in the future someone could dispute his
>patent if they can prove that he (via third parties and you) have disclosed
>information about the unique factors that make this thing work and which
>therefore deserve a patent (for a unique and previously unknown `proces`).
Hmmmmm.
>So here is a suggestion.
>
>You say this about your plans:
>
>>I intend to build a working model; what
>>I'm *not* going to do is steal this guy's work,
>
>Good for you - we need more of this attitude in free-energy research.
>
>>I hope to build a small
>>working model and help him show the critter off, which is why I'm being
>>sketchy on a few details here; basically, it's not my tale to tell in it's
>>entirety.
>
>Jim, why bother (literally) trying to re-invent the wheel`?????
>
>_IF_ this guy has a working model then it would be very, very easy for a
>few of us to arrange for the following:
>
>A) Get him help in patenting it if that is what he wants
>B) Get him publicity in showing it off - he would get nationwide
>(international) coverage and be able to tell his story to the full......
Right, sounds good. I should tell you though that he got ripped off for a
whole lotta money years ago on a patent attempt by what sounds like it might
be one of those "we help you with your invention" type shysters. Like I
said, he ain't real down-to-earth and now on top of that he's gunshy
bordering on paranoid.
>Othwewise, you are going to join the legion of the "I`ve nearly got a
>working model" for who knows how long (but experience suggests you multiply
>any estimate by at least ten!).
Right...except...it SEEMS so drop-dead-simple a design! That's why I'm
tempted to roll one myself. For starters, I'm 400ish miles away from him,
second I think it'll be fairly difficult to get him to "focus" long enough
to do yet another proto.
>If this guy is elderly he might not last too much longer, then he won`t
>enjoy any of the rewards that he deserves. Somebody else can easily steal
>it etc etc.
I know, and that's what he's scared of.
>Jerry - please correct me if I am wrong, but _IF_ right now some guy in the
>middle of the Mojave has a working free-energy magnetic machine, then it
>would take no more than say a couple of weeks (given some fast networking)
>to arrange for three or four key people to go and talk to this guy and
>verify these claims - right?
If I can convince him that the people involved aren't thieves then sure.
I've got his snailmail addy and phone number.
>If it proves true then the rest is just time and coffee....and there are
>plenty of `prizes` and grants out there to recover the costs of this
>investigation - right?
>
>Three final questions Jim:
>
> - What of his equipment/workshop/materials did you actually _see_?
All of it. He's using an aluminum disk an inch thick for the main rotating
bit, on a top-quality roller bearing. Aluminum welded supports are holding
the magnets weighing about 2lbs each. He welded and bolted up the whole
thing himself.
See, that's what you gotta realize here, this guy ain't a lab tinkerer. His
main thing is a totally complete auto shop capable of welding huge bits of
cars and trucks together, he's not into "small desktop toys". If it don't
involve a 7,000watt generator, arc welder and cherry picker engine hoist
he's not interested!
> - What was the relationshiop of the third party you spoke with and
>this old man?
Business partner and long-time friend.
> - How big is the community in which he lives (rough order of
magnitude)?
One gas station, no traffic lights.
Jim March
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