Bear in mind, Keely died in 1898. I received an email from Dale Pond
where he addresses my questions on his website, here are excerpts, I
suggest you read the entire document if you are so inclined;
http://www.svpvril.com/FAQ3.html
The motor does not work mechanically, you are correct.
We were told by Keely during one of our earliest project communications
(channeled information through a 'psychic') our dynasphere is a
duplicate of a dynasphere he made later than the ones we all have
pictures of. He himself used the term dynasphere in a communication
dated 11/30/95 - three weeks into our project and in subsequent
communications.
(in answer to the question about veracity and ethics, equating selling
of a non working 'engine' with a bogus name to that of Dennis Lee)
What does this project have to do with Lee, Tesla or scams? Is there
someone out there who has a proprietary interest in the name "Keely"?
Keely presented (through Dawn Stranges and later others) just about all
the information we needed to build this device. He gave us materials,
compounds, dimensions, theory, where to find parts, how to do things,
chemical formulae, advice, philosophy, science and lots of friendship
and love.
(the Dynasphere is NOT a KEELY design, but an 'interpretation')
I (Dale Pond) called it the Keely Musical Dynasphere. I could have
called it Dale Pond's Musical Dynasphere and either name would be
correct.
I (Dale Pond) and many others (about a million) now consider the SVPvril
web site "authentic literature" on the dynasphere.
(that is certainly stretching it, the site isn't only about the
dynasphere)
BTW, its free to be near Atlin, no charge or obligation.
(Atlin is some new age alternate name for the dynasphere)
So we are forced to improvise if we want to learn anything that is. I
used the best sources available to me. (that is channeled information
being promoted as true Keely material)
It is NOT new age claims but science. (channeling is now science?)
"Jerry W. Decker" wrote:
> Hi Dale et al!
>
> I am very perturbed by something that was recently brought to my
> attention on your site and that I am both 'surprised' and disappointed
> by the offer and circumstances. This isn't a working motor for $25,000,
> but check it out anyway;
>
> http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/shop-indy.mhtml?shop=spectrum&cart=909798738-17093.db&tstamp=909798738&code=MD01898
>
> special Keely wax?
> special Keely lube?
> maintenance contracts available?
>
> 'These devices radiate sympathetic vibration (on many levels) which some
> perceive as Neutral/Heart/Love/Mind energy. Several alternative health
> and retreat centers are acquiring them for the harmonizing effects on
> the human physical, emotional, mental and spiritual systems. All of the
> chakra centers and especially the heart chakra seems to be quickened,
> stimulated and opened.'
> -------------------
> Dale, I cannot find any indication that Keely ever built any device that
> he called a 'Dynasphere'.
>
> Are there really people out there who would actually pay for this? Its
> about 2 steps behind Dennis Lee and his using the name of Tesla to
> promote his scams.
>
> I have never seen anything in any authentic Keely material from the
> period that remotely fits the description of what this device is being
> claimed to do.
>
> Keely did refer to the 'dynasphere' and 'dynaspheric force' but I can
> find no record of there ever being a motor or device by that name.
>
> He did build a Generator, a Globe Motor, the Compound Disintegrator,
> sundry other devices and a Musical Globe shown at a Worlds Fair as well
> as the loose term of 'Keely's Motor' which I've always took to refer to
> the Globe motor as it was the one that produced the real mechanical
> torque.
>
> I will continue to search my files and other sources for that term if it
> was used by Keely himself but at this point, it looks like your own
> term.
>
> Perhaps you can enlighten me on why you have decided to sell something
> called 'Keelys Musical Dynasphere' for $25,000 with the claim above,
> that doesn't work as a motor, which a dynasphere would do, based on the
> terms dynamic and sphere?
>
> This enlightenment would take the form of posted documents or photos
> that all can view, taken from Keely, Moore or some other source of the
> period.
>
> If that evidence cannot be produced (and I'm still looking), would you
> consider explaining to people that it is your term and your
> interpretation of the Dynasphere, not truly Keely?
>
> I see this a lot with Tesla where quotes or stories are attributed to
> him that simply never happened, it simply confuses what little we have
> that is from the period, not the new age interpretations which the net
> seems to thrive on.
>
> I was hoping this could be avoided with Keely, at the very least by
> people with knowledge of Keely specifically stating 'this is my
> opinion', 'this is my interpretation', 'this is my view or concept based
> on Keely's work', rather than say outright it IS Keely.
>
> Long ago, you kindly let me copy the photos from Keely's lab which I
> later got copies of from another source, none were labelled with names
> or nameplates on the machines that I can see.
>
> Shortly after, I received from an anonymous source in Florida a
> photocopy of a rare book which I photocopied and sent to you for your
> files.
>
> The book was 'Keely's Planetary Philosophy' which you published in
> pieces in your newsletters (without of course mentioning where you got
> them..<g>..) so I felt we were even since I had copies of your photos,
> you had a complete copy of this rare book.
>
> Since that time, I have received another book which I believe is from
> Sweden that does attempt to label the machines and explain what they
> did, but it is NOT from Keely's period so the descriptions are subject
> to question.
>
> I have long planned to post those photos along with those descriptions
> and relevant links. In the past I didn't have the extra web space but I
> do have that space now, just need to put it together and post.
>
> The Globe Motor rotated and produced power, it didn't just make music so
> I am puzzled how this appellation of the 'Keely Musical Dynasphere'
> originatee.
>
> I looked through Bloomfield Moores book and found no specific reference
> to a Dynasphere motor, though there is a Musical Globe reference and a
> Globe motor reference.
>
> I am definitely open to correction if you can provide the sources from
> the period showing that Keely did in fact have a Dynasphere which was a
> MOTOR, not a musical device with attributions of chakras and other new
> age claims that I think completely warps and pollutes Keely's purpose
> which was to build a motor that tapped into aetheric flows and that once
> started would run until it suffered a 'reversion' (requiring restarting)
> OR when the parts wore out.
>
> What follows is what I have found to date with regard to the term
> dynasphere, perhaps Dale will provide his sources to show this is truly
> a Keely device since I seem to have missed it or forgot about it.
>
> This is also going to other Keely researchers and I will post their
> feedback.
>
> Perhaps they have such specific information and can clarify the source
> and exact meaning of dynasphere, whether it was ever used by Keely as a
> name for a motor or musical globe.
>
> http://www.keelynet.com/keely/snell1.txt
>
> The atom is surrounded with a dynasphere, or etheric capsule, which
> prevents the atoms from touching each other, inasmuch as dynasphere is
> in inconceivable rapid motion.
>
> http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/saucsong.htm
>
> Overlooked in all the hustle and bustle with which Progress is
> progressing on its way, a lonely inventor named John Worrell Keely, of
> Philadelphia, Pa., rediscovered this lost power and gave it the name
> `Dynaspheric Force.' Keely's experiments aroused considerable interest
> at the time, and the wealthy Barnato Brothers sent their representative,
> Ricardo Seaver, across the Atlantic to investigate his work.
>
> This was long before anyone had produced a television set, discovered
> cosmic rays, or thought about conditions existing above the then current
> `Fourth State of Matter'.
>
> Keely stated that, while investigating the magnetic forces flowing
> between the Earth's two poles, he had discovered that `corpuscles of
> matter could be divided by vibration'(1) and that he could apply this
> principle to drive a motor.
>
> ...For his demonstration to Seaver, Keely stood at one end of his New
> York laboratory; the motor was mounted at the other. Then he played a
> certain note on a violin, whereupon the 25- h.p. motor began to turn,
> gaining speed until it practically jumped its mountings.
>
> It ran at this high speed during which time the inventor did nothing
> more.
>
> Eventually, to stop it, he again took the violin and played a discord,
> whereupon the Force seemed to be withdrawn and the motor came to a stop.
> The surprised visitor was then invited to try to start the machine
> himself using the same violin. At first he was unsuccessful, but when
> Keely touched him he was able to start and stop the engine.
>
> Why should this be? From the surviving Keely papers we read concerning a
> later motor: `At one time the shareholders of the Keely Motor Company
> put a man in his workshop for the express purpose of discovering his
> secret.
>
> After six months of close watching, he said to J. W. Keely one day: 'I
> know how it is done now.' They had been setting the machine up together
> and Keely had been manipulating the stop-cock which turned the force on
> and off. 'Try it then,' was the answer. The man turned the cock and
> nothing happened.
>
> 'Let me see you do it again,' the man said to Keely. The latter
> complied, and the machinery operated at once. Again the other tried, but
> without success.
>
> Then Keely put his hand on his shoulder and told him to try once more.
> He did so with the result of an instantaneous production of current.' We
> see then, that in order to produce the required vibration Keely's
> personal vibration was needed.
>
> The one problem which he never succeeded in solving was to produce a
> machine which would operate without the personal `vibration' or
> `will-power' of the operator.
>
> Commenting on this, the author of THE SECRET DOCTRINE says: `It is just
> because Keely's discovery would lead to knowledge of one of the most
> occult secrets, a secret which can never be allowed to fall into the
> hands of the masses, that failure to push his discovery to its logical
> conclusions seems certain to Occultists...the results obtained from the
> fifth and sixth planes of the Etheric or Astral Force will never be
> permitted to serve for purposes of commerce and traffic.'
>
> THE SECRET DOCTRINE goes on to confirm what I had already guessed-an
> easy guess: `If the question is asked why Mr. Keely was not allowed to
> pass a certain limit, the answer is easy; it was because what he had
> discovered was the terrible sidereal Force known to, and named by, the
> Atlanteans MASH-MAK and by the Aryan Rishis in their Astra Vidya by a
> name that we do not care to give. It is the VRIL of Bulwer Lytton's
> COMING RACE and of the coming races of mankind.
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