Now that's interesting, I never heard it before but surely the
oldtimers knew what they were talking about since it was the 'age of
steam'.
And Boyd's response that 'when it condenses it must contract 1676
times'.
To my view, normally, contraction produces heating while expansion
produces cooling.
In this case, the steam condenses to phase change to water with a loss
of heat energy to produce cooling.
With regard to this mechanical process from the 1800's that produced
PRESSURE, would it be hydraulic pressure applied to water which I
can't see doing anything, or would it be a suction where the water
converts to vapor due to the rarified air media?
Norm said 'at atmospheric pressure'.
I can't help thinking this is a key consideration, that it is the
pressure in which the water is released.
A few years ago, at a Global Science Congress, a doctor friend (Dr.
George Friebott) demonstrated what he called an 'ozone motor' which
was based on Tesla's claim that liquid air could be extracted and used
for power. George said the unit was built by a farmer up in his part
of the country and had been kept in his barn.
This device was totally mechanical and ran on compressed air. The
stage on which the device was tested consisted of several joined
platforms, each of which were about 2 foot high by 10 feet long by 5
feet wide.
A small air compressor was attached to the unit and roughly 10psi was
injected into the motor. It spun and produced torque on the shaft
that could not be stopped by hand.
The air pressure was gradually increased to 15 and then 20 psi, where
the motor began moving all over the platforms and ended up pushing
them apart. We were all amazed that such mechanicl power could come
from such low air pressure but we saw it.
There is a book called 'Liquid Air' from Lindsay Publications which
gives some information about using air as a source of fuel when
condensed. It also ties in to the claims of the late Ed Boese who
used liquid nitrogen, expanded to 980 times its volume and driving an
air motor to run a car...check out;
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/boese.htm
there are at least two other inventors who claimed to have run their
automobile on compressed air which I believe had been separated to
produce pure oxygen which exploded in the presence of the cylinder
spark.
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/airmotor.txt
So I think this line of research offers great promise. The biggest
problem or benefit, depending on your point of view, is it involves
experiments that would require machining and metalworking.
The idea of a purely mechanical system to produce pressure from water,
and that can be scaled up to any pressure desired interests me no end.
---Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> I believe that if you will take the time to go to the library and
find a
> book on old steam engines and boilers you will find the widely
accepted
> rule that one (1) gallon of water will make 1700 gallons of steam at
> atmospheric pressure. I was taught that by my grandfather back when
I was
> a little kid and have never forgotten it. Norm
Jerry Decker wrote;
> > >The guy says he ROUTINELY produced 15-17 psi for his experiments
just
> > >by somehow manipulating water mechanically....this is VERY
IMPORTANT
> > >and I've not been able to find anyone who has a clue about it.
> > >
> > >Why? Because he said that using this same mechanical technique he
> > >could easily generate any pressure so desired simply by scaling
up the
> > >device.
> > >---Boytrell@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > >Today we have vacuums as high as 28.5 inches of Hg. Thats not
> > >difficult to believe when you know that when water first starts to
> > >boil it expands 1676 times, so it's easy to see that when it
> > >condenses it must contract 1676 times.
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