An interesting Magnetics Story

Jerry W. Decker ( (no email) )
Sat, 29 Aug 1998 13:47:29 -0500

Hi Folks!

I was talking to a married couple who have been close friends of mine
for many years. They said years ago when they were 'in the diesel
business', they had office space next door to a shop where a young
student/inventor worked. This guy was attending school and working to
support himself. In his spare moments he had been playing with
horseshoe magnets in a wheel.

My friends said one day he came over all excited and said he'd figured
it out, how to make a 1:10 amplification of torgue using magnets.

They went to see his contraption and it was a wheel with magnets on the
outside rim that was in poximity to another much smaller wheel also with
magnets. The smaller wheel was powered by a 1/10hp motor and revolved
at what they thought was a high speed, though they couldn't tell for
sure because it was spinning.

The big wheel produced 1hp when fed by the little 1/10hp motor driving
the little wheel.

They understood it to be an attraction mode. When they asked the guy
what he planned to do with it, he said, why of course, give it to the
universe since it came to me in a dream. Shortly after that, they saw
the fellow again and he'd 'changed his mind' after talking to a lawyer
who insisted they patent it and get funding to build and sell these
things. The student disappeared shortly after and they never heard
anything else from him or about his invention.

I hate stories that don't have some details but I know this couple and
both said they saw the machine working, but it was so many years ago,
they don't remember much as to details. I asked them to please see if
they could recall names or layouts, anything of that nature that could
be recorded and possibly inspire someone to duplicate this.

Now, the description sounded somewhat like the Peregrinus motor which
used a 'kicker' magnet to keep a wheel running as in;

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/peremotr.htm

and now we have the Minato magnetic motor, preferably just the
self-running bicycle wheel that has the weight of the magnets PLUS THEIR
FIELDS on one half and JUST an equal weight on the opposite half of the
wheel.

As you can see, it might be possible to create an imbalance using the
repulsive or attractive field of the magnets where GRAVITY provides the
real driving force though it must have an outside 'kicker' or fixed
magnet to push against the rotating magnets and 'kick' it over the hump
at about 320 degrees;

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/curtis0.htm

and of course there is the FINSRUD device which runs all by itself in a
track using the inertia of the ball and a self reloading kicker magnet
to push through each 3rd (or more) of the track;

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/finsrud.htm

and another inertial drive report in combination with GRAVITY is;

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/mptoy.htm

Then if you want to tinker with something that shows magnetic fields do
indeed provide a thrust, though very weak and prone to rotational
instability in the TOMI design, check out;

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/tomibild.htm

and then the Gary Effect claiming there is a 'neutral line' which can be
used to drop kick a magnet for mechanical force;

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/gary.htm

It is tempting to say it is gravitational inertia that drives these, but
if they are 'balanced' weight wise then that would not be true.

There might be some anomalous effect with gravity and magnetism which
would add to the wheel rotation for amplification of torque in a
rotating wheel, but that certainly needs testing.

The Minato device using the crescent shaped magnets (as Howard Johnson
did claiming the flux lines would be FOCUSED at the tips for a much
stronger repellent or attractive force) on half the wheel. The weight
was precisely balanced between the two sides, so that the wheel had NO
imbalance.

When you factor in the repulsive effect of the shaped magnets, kicked in
at the most opportune phase of rotation, then the repulsion of the
magnets would be used to spin the wheel.

The only energy you would need to use was for the 'kicker' and the
question becomes one of is the energy needed by the kicker less than the
rotational energy or torque of the wheel?

One or more coils of wire placed near this wheel and with a deep
dielectric to prevent loading, that energy dumped into a capacitor and
then the kicker coil, could provide a sufficient current, especially if
using an EV Gray type high voltage discharge to kick the repellent
magnet near to the rotating magnets in order to get the greatest
possible thrust.

Thus a hybrid of techniques should create at least a self-running wheel
version that if some unknown anomaly or amplification by the addition of
gravitational weight additions to the falling of the wheel, might just
yield much more torque than we expected.

--            Jerry Wayne Decker  /   jdecker@keelynet.com         http://keelynet.com   /  "From an Art to a Science"      Voice : (214) 324-8741   /   FAX :  (214) 324-3501   KeelyNet - PO BOX 870716 - Mesquite - Republic of Texas - 75187