Brummitt wrote:
>I don't quite understand what you mean there about the getting the =
Patent
>office to back you up?
Maybe "backing us" isn't the right phrase. Once the technology begins =
to reach the market place and becomes common knowledge, physically =
reproducible by any other company, patents would (supposedly) offer =
protection for 17 years to keep others from producing and marketing our =
designs. This would tend to slow the proliferation of the =
technology...or not. The point is, it is conceivable that, since the =
government may perceive this technology as a "threat to national =
security" (according to some people's opinions), any "out-of-control" =
proliferation would upset the balance of power currently owned by =
today's energy companies and upset the economic balance in general. As =
a result, it is conceivable that, the government would want the existing =
patents to remain in force for that reason. All of this is a =
hypothetical scenario meant to open the topic up for further discussion =
PRIVATELY BETWEEN OURSELVES.
Brummitt wrote:
>Secondly, you have obviously never dealt with the patent PTO, and it is
>clear that you have only a passing, (or anecdotal) understanding of how
>their processes work.
This judgement is not fair. While it is true we have not dealt directly =
with the PTO, we have studied the patenting process to some degree over =
the last 18 years. I would hardly say that our understanding is passing =
or "anecdotal". Granted, our primary effort has been focused on =
developing our discoveries into SOLID concepts and to gather SOLID =
empirical evidence, less time has been spent on the other aspects, =
patenting included. All of this time allocation was intended.
I wrote
>>that if they were somehow able to invalidate our patents or otherwise =
cancel them...
Brummitt wrote:
>They have no mechanism in place for recalling a
>patent once issued. What they do is take control of a patent, BEFORE =
they
>ever issue a patent which they 'feel' threatened by. That patent NEVER =
gets
>issued, and gag orders are placed on the inventor, and all the agents =
he
>employed in his quest for a patent.
There may be no "official" mechanism in place, but when it comes to =
technology that they perceive is potentially "economy wrecking", I would =
not put it past them to have an unofficial mechanism for at least =
rendering a patent ineffective if not making it "disappear" altogether" =
IF THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT. I don't pretend to know "how" such would be =
accomplished, but if the government sees the need to "deactivate" a =
patent that slipped past the examiners, it is CONCEIVABLE that they =
could make a way to do that. The possibility is all the I was =
suggesting, meant only to spur discussions BETWEEN US for the purpose of =
forming a PRIVATE business rapport.
Brummitt wrote:
>Thirdly, if you disclose the intimate particulars of your invention
>prematurely, meaning before you even have a working prototype to show
>anyone, then 'LEGALLY' you have 'opened your bar date', and you only =
have\
>ONE YEAR from the date of disclosure to file your patent, or lose the
>priviledge. PERIOD! If you cannot cross ALL your T's, and Dot ALL your =
i's
>for producing a viable product, AND have your patent written in a form
>which the patent office will approve of, then you will literally be up =
a
>creek!=20
When you say "disclose", I assume you mean "disclose to the public". =
Based on that assumption, our answer to your following comment should =
give the answer to the above one.
Brummitt wrote:
>HOWEVER, even in following this little scenario, you have just shot
>yourself in the foot, from another angle! Disclosing your invention in =
the
>manner you are planning will alert the government watchdogs to the fact
>that your invention is an Over Unity device, and when you ever do file =
for
>the patent, it is SURE to be confiscated by the government! Can't you =
see
>that this defeats your purposes ALTOGETHER! If you disclose now, then =
you
>will never get a patent! Period! AND, without a patent, you will NEVER =
get
>anyone in this country to produce it! AND, you and your charitable =
concerns
>will go hungry!=20
If, at the end of our countdown, a business relationship with a possible =
funder has not been established and we disclose our discovery, concepts =
and invention designs world-wide, we have already resigned to accept the =
possibility that no compensation other than recognition will come our =
way. While we are very hopeful that doors of opportunity will be =
opened, if none open, so be it. Also, full disclosure means any action =
by anyone to "confiscate' or otherwise "suppress" the technology would =
be ineffective. It would then belong to the people of the world and =
everyone will have access to the knowledge of how to produce sustainable =
O/U in usable amounts. Nothing would hold them back but themselves. It =
will be in their hands to improve upon what they have learned through =
our disclosures.
BTW, in our final LAST choice of full disclosure, we will be disclosing =
ALL the physics behind the designs along with the sources for empirical =
evidence that supports its existence. We will NOT, however disclose ALL =
of our designs. We are reserving some that we will have patented. We =
will disclose one, maybe two of them, the ones that are GUARANTEED to be =
self-sustaining and have the highest efficiency rating and are thus the =
most likely to be reproducible. These are, however, the most expensive =
designs. The benefit is that many people would be able to construct a =
small unit that proves the O/U effect. This is all the F/E community =
needs to attract attention to the more affordable designs that they will =
have conceived and even to the other methods of producing F/E that are =
genuine.
What we will be disclosing is more than just a single device design. We =
will be handing over the key to a whole new physics that will serve as a =
broad foundation for all the inventors and engineers of the world to =
build upon. What we will disclose is not unlike the discovery of =
electricity itself. The physics of electricity provided the broad =
foundation that has led to all the electronic and electromagnetic =
technologies we enjoy today. The physics behind free energy from the =
vortex is the doorway to technologies that even I, knowing the secrets, =
have not yet conceived of. Free energy is only the beginning. I =
suspect that once certain very bright individuals in the F/E community =
understand what we will be sharing, it will trigger revolutionary ideas =
in their minds that will shed new light on the existing F/E arenas. The =
unproven theories that abound regarding all the anomalous behaviors =
surrounding the ferromagnetic and electromagnetic fields will eventually =
be replaced with an understanding of the true physics at work, whatever =
that turns out to be. And those men will make it happen. It could be =
that all they need is a little special insight provided by the knowledge =
of a new physics that will have recently been made known.
Brummitt wrote:
>What are you expecting? Do you think that we ('we' being the general
>American populous), will all see the value of this device; then go out =
and
>build it, and then, be so grateful to you that we will send you a =
'Royaly'
>for the information? Come on! Get real! American's cant tip 15% at a
>restaurant, you think they are going to pay you for a device that they =
have
>to build? You would do better selling plans to this device over the =
net, or
>from an ad in the back of Popular Science, once you have a working =
model,
>and forget about this count down stuff!
No, this is not what we expect and nothing I've said indicates that's =
what we expect. (See previous comment for full answer)
I wrote
>>Since we will not accept any investment without the investor's full
>>confidence in our claims then the only way we can profit is if 3rd =
party
>>validation occurs. We are looking for a single partner to form a =
business
>>agreement with. To accept small investors would produce a mountain of =
red
>>tape that we simply must avoid.
Brummitt wrote:
>As far as getting an investor goes; read, and reread this letter about =
ten
>times; then think hard about it, and then explain to us why ANY =
investor
>with a brain in his head is even going to look cross eyed at you, let =
alone
>hand any money over to you!
I have nothing to say to this insulting remark other than this...
If a working self-sustaining reproducible demonstration unit that =
clearly produces usable mechanical or electric energy through conversion =
of a previously unknown energy source cannot attract investors to the =
degree that it gets marketed, then mankind is doomed for =
self-destruction.
To everyone else...
Mr. Brummit made a private inquiry into our work last week and has now =
attempted to turn our search for private funding into a circus by taking =
our private business conversations into the public arena where he could =
attack our credibility by focussing on our supposed lack of business and =
patenting knowledge. I want to publicly state that we claim no great =
expertise when it comes to the business world. That is what business =
consultants and business partners are for. Our expertise is highly =
focused and this focus is why we have achieved things we've achieved.
If this were the only kind of back-stabbing under-handed techniques that =
the business community had to offer, I would be inclined to just give it =
all away. Thankfully, however, I have not yet lost hope that there is a =
possibility of finding the right business partner in the very near =
future through our other PRIVATE contacts. I just hope they stay =
private.
Best Wishes,
ZPE
http://freeweb.pdq.net/zpe