Re: Bedini hand drawn motor plan

Bill McMurtry ( (no email) )
Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:42:09 +1000

Hi Jerry,

I know you've got a lot to chew on at the moment, but I find myself
irresistably drawn on the topic of these little motors <g>.

The Adams motor is almost exactly the same as John's motor. In fact the
things that John talked about in his Bedini free-energy motor booklet were
exactly the same as the things Old Adams talked to me about, back in '92 -
'93. The whole point of the excercise back then was to create a condition in
the BATTERY that caused it to remain charged - the motor/generator was just
a means to accomplish that task. Remember in John's little book where he
could'nt stress enough the importance of achieving electric shock
oscillation (ringing) of the battery terminals? The battery was the whole
point of the excercise, I tell you! <g>.

What's happened since then? Not a lot... a) It can be proved that torque
output power is never greater than input power, unless by measurement error;
b) Everyone has trouble replicating the 'battery charge effect'.

Point a) is kind of self evident, based on present knowledge, experience,
and lack of a single demonstration to prove otherwise.

The battery charge effect is obviously difficult to achieve. Why? Why is no
one discussing it, instead of this distraction with the magnets, coils,
rotors, etc? Sure, a 10 year old kid can build a very low input power motor
that runs for 5 days straight on a 9 volt battery, and she'll probably learn
heaps about electric motors and generators in the process, great. I've done
that too, but what about free-energy or over-unity?

Years ago Bedini produced another booklet involving experiments with
batteries, switches and loads. The Brandt/Tesla switch appeared to drive a
load while maintaining, and even elevating, its battery voltage. It was very
exciting at the time <g>. The same problems with replication were
encountered. Battery problems again.

Fact: Only certain batteries will work in these systems, due to some unknown
variable.

Question: What is the variable?

IMO, it is somewhat misleading for John to suggest that the difficulties
encountered with replication are because enthusiasts do not follow the
provided construction details. Then adding insult to injury, complain that
we must be lacking because a 10 year old girl can do it! I agree with John
on one point, if a 10 year old can do it, so can anyone. But what's a low
power motor got to do with Free-energy and over-unity and efficiency?
Without the 'battery charge effect' in the picture - Nothing!

Geez Jerry, I wish SOMEONE would come clean on this one, and step on it.
It's dead but its still jigglin' <g>. BATTERIES!!!

Regards, Bill.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry W. Decker <jdecker@keelynet.com>
To: <interact@keelynet.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Bedini hand drawn motor plan

> Hi Bill et al!
>
> Well, the kids pictures certainly don't match the
> diagram...but hey, who will know if no one builds it.
>
> I plan on using some flat magnets from radio shack..since I
> have a few from the TOMI trials..<g>..
>
> If you look on Bedini's notes page, he indicates a 3 pound
> flywheel is what is rotating...so I plan to just build the
> 10 year old thing first, using a tricycle wheel with the
> magnets attached in four places. That way, it has the
> bearing/bushing and a shaft would be easy...
>
> In the one I'm planning, the wheel won't be connected to the
> shaft as his diagram indicates should be done...its really
> interesting because you could put those generator coils all
> around the circumference, either light a circular path of
> LEDS or connect the outputs into a capacitor, possibly
> through a dual diode...then drain the capacitor as needed...
>
> Anyway, to my view it is the EVGRAY coil but without the
> high voltage...have to see what kind of spike that looks
> like on a scope as the wheel passes through the trigger coil
> that drives the transistor...
>
> We know that any coil that is switched will produce high
> intensity spikes from relatively low voltages and
> currents....the principle of the toy shockers.
>
> Anyway, I certainly don't plan to obsess over it...no jibes
> intended, but I do think the only way we'll understand it is
> to build...
>
> I never bought the IBM myth of plug and play...
>
> I detest the dummying down of computer science to microsoft
> as some kind of bible, where they claim owenership (hmmmm,
> sounds familiar) by renaming a reboot as a 'restart' and
> directories as 'folders'....
>
> Nothing comes easy that is worthwhile so if we just spit and
> sputter about the lack of details in the plans, then we are
> just wasting time and need to call the 10 year old..<g>...
>
> Got a LOT OF BUBBLE GUM to chew these days that will be of
> interest when we are ready to make it public, but for now,
> this is one thing that looks so simple to build, I can't
> imagine an excuse for not doing it....then again,
> remembering how we had all that TOMI information and never
> lifted a finger to build it until a friend did it, called me
> all excited and I did it, then we posted our dual results
> and a LOT of people did it....and it worked as stated...
>
> Anyway, enough...the coil windings should be zapped near the
> magnet and measure the amount of thrust generated...but I
> LOVE this self triggering transistor...
>
> Seeya!
>
>
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