Thanks for the input...I have to agree with John about his
comment that if a 10 year old girl can do this, why the **
can't everyone else??
He has been at this a long time and most people just talk
and 'obsess' over details that will become obvious when
constructing it....this particular design requires very,
VERY little money and time to put together, so I can see why
it would be frustrating if unending questions keep coming
in...its the wizard of Oz syndrome where the final clue will
be to just click your heels together 3 times and wish you
were back in Kansas and bam, it works...<g>..
When he refers to his motors being built exactly as he
describes, some of them are fairly complex and do require it
be built properly, but as I look at this idea, its basically
very simple and the parts I think aren't that critical
though as close as possible is desired...anytime you sweep a
magnetic field past a coil of wire, ANY size magnet or ANY
size wire (numbers or turns of whatever gauge), you will
induce a current.
By having that coil on an iron or steel shaft, you will
increase the flux density for magnetic power.
By the same token, anytime you send a current through a
wire, you create a magnetic field. When you put in a quick
pulse of current, you get a sharp magnetic spike...if a
magnet happens to be near it and of like polarity, bam, it
repels....this has NOTHING to do with Bedini, its just basic
physics...
I worked in photofinishing for 22 years running a tech
support department, so have worked on all kinds of equipment
and components...many types of solenoids and transformers
including high voltage and high current..
So, I think there is WAY TOO MUCH MYSTERY being read into
these plans and I don't know why people are so afraid to do
the very simple experiments...they don't have to be
precisely machined, its science fair project quality, using
a lot of material that is laying around most houses and
workshops....garage sales, flea markets, junkyards, you can
get very interesting junk that can be built into machines..
In electronics, if you use a switch and a coil and rapidly
turn the switch off and on, you will create a series of
current spikes which will create a repetitive series of
magnetic pulses....that's all this is doing...the magnet is
simply being repelled to drive the wheel....
What I think is cool is that as the wheel is turning to move
the magnet past the coil, it induces a current that acts as
a self-regulating switch, so that the transistor sends in a
sharp current from the 9vdc battery into the coil with the
big wire so that it pushes the magnet away.
Now another feature that isn't so obvious is the moving
magnet is creating a current in BOTH COILS so that when the
9vdc is switched in, it doesn't just create a current in the
wire but now MEETS an induced current so you get a bucking
field...now thats just marvelous and I think leads to some
amazing possibilities of true o/u....
It is so very similar to the EVGRAY machine except that
Bedini is using low voltage to create the spike whereas Gray
used 3500vdc capacitors. I can see how his capacitors could
be charged up with a series of coils around the edge of the
wheel to make the caps serve as the battery, thus making it
self running IF THERE IS SUFFICIENT current over a fast
enough period of time to keep the thing running. That
remains to be seen, John indicates that is the case, that
they are self running, though he uses batteries.
I am thinking that using this circuit with a battery to
initially get it started, that the generator coil normally
used to run the led, could be expanded to SEVERAL COILS
around the periphery of the spinning wheel, with all the
juice going into a capacitor which now serves as the
battery....THEN if it continues to run (and the voltage can
be measured in this process), then the thing COULD BE
OVERUNITY...not just super efficient...
Anyway, it is so very simple to throw it together....just
some varnished copper wire that any electronics house sells,
wound into coils
Another neat feature of this is Johns note that the dual
coils, one wound within the other are BIFILAR....that means
one coil would be wound on the steel or iron shaft in one
direction, then BACK DOWN in the opposite direction....the
purpose is so that the magnetic field will be cancelled so
you only get a pure electric spike....amazing that it can do
work...once you get the one coil wound in this bifilar
self-cancelling form, you have those wires hanging
out...then you wind the other coil in the same manner...its
really intriguing and shows Johns excellent understanding of
deeper secrets than he is clearly stating....
He gives plenty of clues but we just aren't picking up on
them AND WON'T until we build it and just experiment as he
so obviously has...
Anyway, thanks for the input, its really a neat circuit with
I think a lot of potential, no pun intended...but it all
means nothing until we get off our butts and build
it...something Bedini has been saying for years...but we
just haven't experimented with.
It would seem as Bill brings up that even if it is very low
power consumed because of high efficiency, eventually the
battery will be drained.
In the case of the EVGRAY motor, one of the claims was 32
days that it rained under lab tests and was shutdown with
the batteries still being charged after running the motor
and doing work all that time.
If it was just super high efficiency, then the duration
wasn't long enough, however by using capacitors as the
'battery', there are no chemical reactions.
Start it up with a battery, let the capacitor or bank of
capacitors build up from the multiple generator coils, then
switch the battery out of the circuit and let that run the
drive coil to kick the wheel around.
Once the battery is removed, there is NO SOURCE for power
OTHER than that induced by the generator coils and if it
continues to run for an extended period with the voltage
remaining equal to or greater than what it started with,
then we have it.
Its all meaningless without experimenting...I plan to run by
Tannners and get the coil wire sizes he recommends...as well
as that particular transistor...won't be using a roller
skate wheel but I plan to copy the picture and I'll document
it and if it works, I'll send it to John for his comments
and post the results to the list....anyone can do this, the
information is all provided though there are some
disparities between the pics of the girls exhibit and the
hand drawn diagram...but nothing remotely
insurmountable...good luck!
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