On inspection of one of the diagrams of this Hartman (TOMI)
patent as below;
http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/fcgi-bin/any2html?FILENAME=%2Fcache%2F30%2F53%2FUS04215330__.tif&PAGE=2&USER_HTML=%253CA%2BHREF%253D%2Forder%253Fpn%3DUS04215330__+TARGET%3D_top%253EOrderPatent%253C%2FA%253E&SCALE=0.35
it is interesting to note that the ball is on a guide rail
and the magnets are suspended/affixed to the sidebars...
Now thats an interesting design as the TOMI basically has
the steel ball moving between the two rails of connected
magnets.
Some claim that magnets have a specific spin (clockwise for
north and counter clockwise for south, though some say that
is backwards) and this would seem to be an excellent
description of the motive force that would be driving the
ball.
Searl and others also claim this rotation which they claim
can be tapped with a proper configuration. Perhaps it would
be a good idea to duplicate Hartmans design, I really like
the rail that keeps the ball centered on a straight track.
When I was tinkering with the TOMI, with a two incline
version, it was such an incredible thing to watch, that I
went to the model store and bought some plastic train track
sections to build a 3 foot diameter circle. The idea was to
have these dual side rails mounted at different areas on the
track so that a plastic flatcar with another roll magnet
would be forced around the track.
Now this steel ball method is also akin to the Watson smot
and probably the best, most reliable report is the Finsrud
device that also has a steel ball on a circular track that
runs all by itself as posted at;
http://www.overunity.de/finsrud.htm
where inventor/artist/sculpture Reidar Finsrud has this
device running in his store window for a couple of years
now.
So it IS possible to make a circular version that self-runs.
With the original TOMI, where the rotor is magnetic, the
hopes were that if it could be made to run by itself, then
one or more coils could be placed so that the rotating
magnetic field would sweep through the coil to produce a
small current.
With a steel ball, I'm not sure the weak induced magnetic
field would be sufficient to create any current.
What if the ball used the monopole geometry of the
Wachspress patent where ONLY a NORTH or SOUTH pole faced
outward???
http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?pn=US04874346__
The TOMI uses like poles to repel up the incline and Harris
claims there is a 'magnetic instability' that can be tapped
to do work, interestingly enough, Hamel claims the same
thing with his 45 gallon drum and 'weight into speed'
statement.
"Jerry W. Decker" wrote:
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> Hi Folks!
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> Richard Sullivan sent in an email about a fellow named Emil
> Hartman who invented a magnetic incline and patented it in
> 1977, he was wondering why it had not taken off.
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> I'd not seen that patent that I could remember but I found
> it at;
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> http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=pall&s1=hartman&s2=emil&OS=hartman+AND+emil&RS=hartman+AND+emil
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> Here is the same patent through IBM's womplex;
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> http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?&pn=US04215330__
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