Re: H2O Fuel

Ardvark ( (no email) )
Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:23:38 -0000

hmmmm, the bonds between hydrogen and oxygen are very strong, if they
weren't then our planet would have self-destructed millions of years ago.
Trying to find common ground between the distillation of crude oil in to its
component parts and the separation of water in to it's component parts is
ludicrous, water evaporates when you heat it, but it condenses back in to
water when it cools. To find the answer to a problem try taking your
inspiration from nature.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Johnston <enki@csrlink.net>
To: Thomas Buyea <ranger116@webtv.net> Interact <Interact@Keelynet.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: H2O Fuel

> Ok Good,
> I know that your argument is basically given by quoting the second law
of
> thermodynamics and research done by Michael Faraday on the electrolysis of
> water.
> I believe however that there are several fairly cognizant arguments which
can
> be made to refute the validity of either of these reasons given in support
of
> your statement.
> This is not to say that either argument is invalid. Rather, in the
case of
> the 2nd law, it is simply misapplied here. In the case of Faraday's
findings
> he was correct given the methods at his disposal at the time.
> If the second law holds true (as applied here) then fossil fuels would
be
> useless to us because it would take just as much energy to refine crude
oil
> into gasoline as the burning of gasoline would produce.
> My point here is that if you look at the process of separating water
into
> H2 and O2 as "refining" the raw material into a usable fuel it is much
easier
> to understand how, by improving our refining methods, we could indeed make
> water into a usable fuel source. One that could in fact be used in most
> currently produced internal combustion engines with minor retrofitting.
> I spent some time developing various things to make use of this and
will
> probably end up putting some schematics up on the net or here as
attachments.
> I have given up on the fantasy of ever making any money out of it and so
am
> now just playing with the concept.
> Actually any of the stuff I designed could easily stand alone no matter
how
> you produce the fuel gasses but the concept of the electricity generated
by
> the boiler I designed being used to "refine" the raw material is too much
fun
> to ignore totally.
> The boiler I referenced is going to run at as close to 100% efficiency
as
> you will ever see in a steam fired boiler too (just a little bonus).
> MJ
>
>
> Thomas Buyea wrote:
>
> > It takes more energy to do it than it produces.
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: H2O Fuel
> > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 19:02:47 -0500
> > From: Mike Johnston <enki@csrlink.net>
> > To: Interact <Interact@Keelynet.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> > Would anyone like to discuss H2O seperated into H2 and O2 as a fuel
> > source?
> > MJ
> >
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