> Ok Good,
>    I know that your argument is basically given by quoting the second law
of
> thermodynamics and research done by Michael Faraday on the electrolysis of
> water.
> I believe however that there are several fairly cognizant arguments which
can
> be made to refute the validity of either of these reasons given in support
of
> your statement.
>     This is not to say that either argument is invalid. Rather, in the
case of
> the 2nd law, it is simply misapplied here. In the case of Faraday's
findings
> he was correct given the methods at his disposal at the time.
>    If the second law holds true (as applied here) then fossil fuels would
be
> useless to us because it would take just as much energy to refine crude
oil
> into gasoline as the burning of gasoline would produce.
>     My point here is that if you look at the process of separating water
into
> H2 and O2 as "refining" the raw material into a usable fuel it is much
easier
> to understand how, by improving our refining methods, we could indeed make
> water into a usable fuel source. One that could in fact be used in most
> currently produced internal combustion engines with minor retrofitting.
>    I spent some time developing various things to make use of this and
will
> probably end up putting some schematics up on the net or here as
attachments.
> I have given up on the fantasy of ever making any money out of it and so
am
> now just playing with the concept.
>    Actually any of the stuff I designed could easily stand alone no matter
how
> you produce the fuel gasses but the concept of the electricity generated
by
> the boiler I designed being used to "refine" the raw material is too much
fun
> to ignore totally.
>    The boiler I referenced is going to run at as close to 100% efficiency
as
> you will ever see in a steam fired boiler too (just a little bonus).
>                                                         MJ
>
>
> Thomas Buyea wrote:
>
> > It takes more energy to do it than it produces.
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: H2O Fuel
> > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 19:02:47 -0500
> > From: Mike Johnston <enki@csrlink.net>
> > To: Interact <Interact@Keelynet.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >    Would anyone like to discuss H2O seperated into H2 and O2 as a fuel
> > source?
> >                                                        MJ
> >
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