Re: "Ohsako's Principle"

Fred Epps ( (no email) )
Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:58:36 -0700

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This is from Jerry----

Hi Fred et al!

Good points, though I don't think there is anything
psychic about it....<g>...

I just updated the site with the new email that
CORRECTS the polarity, and it clearly shows that the
correlation NOW is NOT with John Bedini's Fluxgate but
with Stewart Harris' TOMI...though a perpendicular
version, it still relies on the magnetic instability.

http://www.keelynet.com/ohsako/ohsako.htm

Just got Dan Larochelles new book, 'The Gods Have
Returned' about the 'Hamel Technology'...not bad, lots
of graphics...we chatted last night and I just a quick
glance through I thought it might offer something
interesting, but today, I read a bit more in detail
and I just can't see the links that he is seeing with
so many ancient Egyptian symbols....the word is
'stretching it'...<g>...

I plan to go through it to get him to clarify...he was
in a rush to get it done for the Extraordinary Science
conference and he will be doing a 2nd printing so
whatever any of us can do to help him flesh out his
material would be of use...that includes snipping out
the junk...

Anyway, back to Ohsako...I think he does have
something though whether it will prove out is highly
questionable. Hiroshi says;

'What we have to find out is how to hold the rotator
at the position other than your hands. To tell you the
truth, 'Ohsako's principle' really works.

But unfortunately none of the system attached to the
rotator to hold the rotator at the position that we
experimented so far, including the idea published with
WIPO at this time, worked.'

Does this ring a bell???

Try Minato at;=20

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/curtis0.htm

specifically;

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/curtis.htm

'In the film clip a slight pumping action of Minato's
hand holding the magnet is apparent. When I braced my
hand so that there was no pumping action, the motor
still ran. In fact it seemed to run better. Pumping
action by the hand held magnet is not the power that
drives the motor.=20

When the drive magnet is moved away from the wheel it
coasts rather quickly to a stop and comes to rest in a
manner typical of any spinning bicycle wheel.=20

Again when the wheel is at rest and a large magnet is
moved up to the wheel it starts to spin. At no time is
it necessary to touch the wheel to get it to rotate.'
--------------------
Interesting that Minato uses NORTH poles repelling as
does Bedini's Fluxgate....John said the North pole
energy was stronger than the South per his tests.

The same dithering is necessary to keep the Hamel
Spinner alive...else the ball will roll out from under
the influence of the field.

John Bedinis' neighbor suggested milling out a slight
concavity in smooth surface, so that as the spinning
ball moves out of the field, it tries to roll up the
cavity...'gravity' resets it back under the magnet
influence and it would thus keep spinning, always
recocking itself due to riding up on the edge.

Hamel's analogy of 'weight into speed', indicates
using this imbalance to derive power. So it should be
possible that a trigger of miniscule power would cause
a properly arranged mass to cascade into power, then
overshoot to become sensitized in a balanced condition
and repeat the process....

As far as I know, no one built this little ball in
cavity arrangement, but it would be a great little toy
that did no 'practical' work, kind of like a simple
FINSRUD.

--- Fred Epps <fepps@fidalgo.net> wrote:
> Hi Jerry and all,
> >
> >Well, looks like the Ohsako principle is REALLY
> SOMETHING NEW...
>=20
>=20
> You may well be right that it is something new-- it
> does have
> characteristics not shared by other pm motors-- but
> just to put it in
> context, if you go to the japanese patent abstract
> server at:
>=20
>
http://www2.ipdl.jpo-miti.go.jp/dbpweb/connecter/guest/DBPinit/ENGDB/wref=
paj
>=20
> and put in search terms like "permanent", "magnet",
> "motor", "energy" etc.
> you will discover that there are SEVERAL HUNDRED pm
> motor patents on the server...

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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Please respond to jdecker@keelynet.com
as I am writing from my work email of
jwdatwork@yahoo.com.........thanks!
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This is from Jerry----
 
Hi Fred et al!

Good points, though I don't think there is=20anything
psychic about it....<g>...

I just updated the =site with=20the new email that
CORRECTS the polarity, and it clearly shows that=20the
correlation NOW is NOT with John Bedini's Fluxgate but
with =Stewart=20Harris' TOMI...though a perpendicular
version, it still relies on the =magnetic instability.

http://www.keelynet.co=m/ohsako/ohsako.htm

Just=20got Dan Larochelles new book, 'The Gods Have
Returned' about the ='Hamel=20Technology'...not bad, lots
of graphics...we chatted last night and I =just a=20quick
glance through I thought it might offer =something
interesting, but=20today, I read a bit more in detail
and I just can't see the links =that he is=20seeing with
so many ancient Egyptian symbols....the word =is
'stretching=20it'...<g>...

I plan to go through it to get him to =clarify...he=20was
in a rush to get it done for the Extraordinary =Science
conference and=20he will be doing a 2nd printing so
whatever any of us can do to help =him=20flesh out his
material would be of use...that includes snipping =out
the=20junk...

Anyway, back to Ohsako...I think he does =have
something though=20whether it will prove out is highly
questionable.  Hiroshi=20says;

'What we have to find out is how to hold the rotator
at =the=20position other than your hands. To tell you the
truth, 'Ohsako's =principle'=20really works.

But unfortunately none of the system attached to=20the
rotator to hold the rotator at the position that =we
experimented so=20far, including the idea published with
WIPO at this time,=20worked.'

Does this ring a bell???

Try Minato at; =

http://www.keelynet.=com/gravity/curtis0.htm

specifically;

http://www.keelynet.c=om/gravity/curtis.htm

'In=20the film clip a slight pumping action of Minato's
hand holding the =magnet is=20apparent. When I braced my
hand so that there was no pumping action, =the=20motor
still ran. In fact it seemed to run better. Pumping
action =by the=20hand held magnet is not the power that
drives the motor.

When =the=20drive magnet is moved away from the wheel it
coasts rather quickly to =a stop=20and comes to rest in a
manner typical of any spinning bicycle wheel.=20

Again when the wheel is at rest and a large magnet is
moved =up to the=20wheel it starts to spin. At no time is
it necessary to touch the =wheel to get=20it to rotate.'
--------------------
Interesting that Minato uses =NORTH=20poles repelling as
does Bedini's Fluxgate....John said the North=20pole
energy was stronger than the South per his tests.

The =same=20dithering is necessary to keep the Hamel
Spinner alive...else the =ball will=20roll out from under
the influence of the field.

John Bedinis' =neighbor=20suggested milling out a slight
concavity in smooth surface, so that =as the=20spinning
ball moves out of the field, it tries to roll up=20the
cavity...'gravity' resets it back under the magnet
influence =and it=20would thus keep spinning, always
recocking itself due to riding up on =the=20edge.

Hamel's analogy of 'weight into speed', indicates
using =this=20imbalance to derive power.  So it should be
possible that a =trigger of=20miniscule power would cause
a properly arranged mass to cascade into =power,=20then
overshoot to become sensitized in a balanced condition
and =repeat the=20process....

As far as I know, no one built this little ball =in
cavity=20arrangement, but it would be a great little toy
that did no ='practical' work,=20kind of like a simple
FINSRUD.

--- Fred Epps <fepps@fidalgo.net> =wrote:
> Hi=20Jerry and all,
> >
> >Well, looks like the Ohsako =principle is=20REALLY
> SOMETHING NEW...
>
>
> You may well =be right=20that it is something new-- it
> does have
> characteristics =not=20shared by other pm motors-- but
> just to put it in
> =context, if=20you go to the japanese patent abstract
> server at:
> =
>
http://www2.ipdl.jpo-miti.go.jp/dbpweb/connecter/guest/DBPin=it/ENGDB/wrefpaj
>=20
> and put in search terms like "permanent",=20"magnet",
> "motor", "energy" =etc.
>=20you will discover that there are SEVERAL HUNDRED pm
> motor =patents on the=20server...

=3D=3D=3D


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Please==20respond to jdecker@keelynet.com
as=20I am writing from my work email of
jwdatwork@yahoo.com...=.......thanks!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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