Re: Electrically Expanded Water

Jerry W. Decker ( (no email) )
Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:46:55 -0500

Hi Folks!

Responded to Georges' email and figured what the heck it might be useful
to the list, so here 'tis;
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Hi George!

Thanks for the heads up! I posted the URL and some excerpts to the
KeelyNet interact list that might get you some interest, about 335
people these days and I'll post a notice on the whats new
section...seems like a lot of people read the interact discussion list
archives which are public and get indexed on the various search engines
by topic so one post goes a long way..<g>..

With regard to that toroid motor...another guy got an email saying you
had to use two 2.5 hp motors which required about $800 of neodymium
magnets each to make the thing work.....who can afford that for an
experiment...Steve Sullivan of Omnidyne also says they have filed for a
120 country patent.

I was very intrigued by your observations about this 'new' gas, well
watergas that seems to be electrically expanded.

A couple of correlations, the capacity of water to hold electric charge
is the 'zeta potential' and I believe it is negative ions that can be
used to quench flames.

Somewhere, besides using the lift and glow observations of the
'wasserfadden', it is posted about how to check the zeta potential of
water and determine how much electricity is stored in it.

It had something to do with holding a highly charged plate over water
and seeing how high it lifted in the air, the higher, the more energy in
the water...sounds like a neat way to make a cheapie analogue to what
Flanagan uses, a surface tension tester, can't recall the exact name of
that device but Patrick told me it was about $30,000 and he had to
borrow the one from a university when doing his colloids and microwater
and microcluster experiments....that's how he measured this 'zeta'
potential...

Now that wasserfadden (water fountain) experiment was explained by
Walter Baumgartner as a perfect indicator of the 'vitality' of the
water. You are probably familiar with it, but when the high pressure
>90psi thin stream (through a nozzle made up of one of those needles that are used to air up basketballs or footballs) of water is shot downward into an electrically insulated metal pail (coated with wax), the water will form very fine drops which will levitate and orbit around the nozzle as it glows....the more water and the brighter the glow in a darkroom, the more 'vitality' the water has, thus indicating a higher capacity to hold electrical charge.

Not much but right off the top thats what springs to my mind..thanks
again for sharing the URL...seeya!

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