Re: Taming Maxwell's Demon

Jerry W. Decker ( (no email) )
Mon, 10 May 1999 00:37:32 -0500

Hi Bill et al!

I don't know if you meant the zeta potential comments as private so did
not repost to the list, however you make a good point. Colloids
apparently can hold a tremendous amount of electrical energy (zeta
potential) because of their large surface area.

I'd never seen where Schauberger added anything to the water but it
makes sense that a colloid to increase the ability to hold charge or
maybe even a surfactant to reduce the surface tension thereby decreasing
the viscosity could have been used...perhaps Dan Davidson might know
about that...Walter Baumgartner certainly would but I don't believe he's
online, though he now lives in Australia, last time I heard.

Hmm, a colloidal solution to make the water act like little capacitors
or batteries...collecting charge on one side and dumping it elsewhere
perhaps in a spark? Zokwendle, sucking coil...spark discharge into a
coil produces a sharp magnetic pulse....stream of pulses and you could
inductively tap the energy...though I'd charge a capacitor, then a
battery bank..<g>..

What if it was a surfactant to reduce the tension and evoke a negative
resistance chemically, then with an electrostatic field, that would
further 'reduce adhesion' as in reduce viscosity, and maybe the colloid
was mixed with that...so many possible approaches...

I'll repost this to Dan and see if he ever heard of Schauberger adding
anything to the water...Ren might know also or had heard of it...but I
certainly haven't.

There was a Professor Lenard in the late 1800's who did experiments with
water separation and found high voltage was generated when the water was
mechanically forced at high velocity through a fine nozzle...the
principle of the wasserfadden (water fountain)....perhaps a vortex at a
critical velocity might rip the water molecules apart from each other =

to release the charges.
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http://faculty.bce.gunma-u.ac.jp/mxsato/ResearchList_1990-.html
28) "Surface tension reduction of liquid by applied electric field using
vibrating jet method," IEEE Trans. Ind. Appl., 34(2), 294 - 300 (1998).
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http://www.royal-bodycare.net/somatids.htm

Q.How do Microclusters=AE affect the ability of blood cells to transport
oxygen and nutrients throughout the body? =

A. To answer this question there must first be a clear understanding of
zeta potential or negative electrical charge. Zeta potential is a term
used in colloidal chemistry. =

When tiny mineral or organic particles are suspended in a fluid, zeta
potential maintains the dispersion or discreteness of the particles in
suspension. =

In science, we learn that like charges repel and opposite charges
attract. In an ideal system like blood, we want all particulates to have
a like electrical charge. If the particles have no electrical charge,
the various particles will clump together and form sludge. =

Therefore, the higher the zeta potential the better the dispersion of
particles in suspension. Thomas Riddick, a pioneer in colloidal
chemistry, said that Zeta Potential is a basic law of nature. Without
zeta potential life could not exist. =

The high zeta potential or negative electrical charge on Microclusters
may help to increase the dispersion or discreteness of blood cells by
helping to enhance the electrical charge on blood colloids which include
blood cells. =

When blood cells are free flowing, they expose maximum surface area to
the blood and are therefore able to hold and transport more oxygen and
other nutrients throughout the body. =

The microscopic photographs of blood cells clearly demonstrate how
Microclusters=AE, in the form of Crystal Energy=AE, can impact the abilit=
y
of the blood cells to transport oxygen and nutrients. Since zeta
potential is a subject normally contained within colloid chemistry, very
few health professionals are even aware of it and its potential
importance to health. =

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Ion Stick to impart an electrostatic field to water for altering its
properties;
http://www.ionstick.com/faq.htm#1

1. WHY DO I NEED THE ION STICK=AE?
The efficiency of heat transfer in your facility is directly related to
your operating costs. Ever increasing fuel prices are elevating
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2. WHAT DOES THE ION STICK DO?
It inhibits the formation of scale and deposits within recirculating
heat transfer water systems. Existing deposits and scale are removed as
well.

3. HOW DOES IT WORK?
The ION STICK=AE generates an electrostatic field (no current flow) at th=
e
probe site. It is the effects of this force that provides the benefits
that the product has to offer.

4. WHAT IS AN ELECTROSTATIC FIELD?
It is a Beta force that provides 'free' electrons which increase the
Zeta potential (in water) of the constituent that it is in contact with.

13. ARE THE ELECTROSTATIC EFFECTS PERMANENT?
No, they are not. This is why the product must be installed in a
recirculating section of the system. Suspended material which is
permitted to accumulate indefinitely will revert to a hard deposit or
scale.

25. HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THE USE OF THE ION STICK=AE?
Use of ION STICK=AE encompass the following benefits:

ENERGY SAVINGS - Due to cleansing action, heat transfer improves. =

CHEMICAL SAVINGS - The ION STICK=AE will act as a substitute for a
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(interesting claim - that ELECTROSTATIC ENERGY INCREASES HEAT TRANSFER
OF WATER.....JWD)
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Measurement of Zeta Potential;
http://www.malvern.co.uk/zetmea.htm
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Why measure Zeta Potential?;
http://www.bic.com/morezeta.htm

All materials in contact with a liquid acquire a charge: zeta potential
is an important and useful indicator of this charge. For example, a
knowledge of zeta potential can be used to predict and control the
stability of colloidal suspensions or emulsions: the greater the zeta
potential the more likely the system is to be stable. The measurement of
zeta potential is often the key to understanding dispersion and
aggregation processes in applications as diverse as water purification,
ceramic slip casting and the formulation of paints, inks and cosmetics.

Zeta potential can also be a controlling parameter in processes such as
adhesion, surface coating, filtration, lubrication and corrosion.
Consequently, the presence or absence of charged groups on the surface
of macroscopic materials such as hair, glass fiber, paper pulp, plastic
films and refractories, as revealed by their zeta potentials can
directly affect their performance and processing characteristics.
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http://www.malvern.co.uk/zettheo.htm

Dispersion stability

Overall system stability depends on the interaction between individual
particles. If mutual repulsion exists between particles in a liquid
dispersion, the dispersion will resist flocculation. Where this
mechanism does not exist, the attractive forces present in the
dispersion will cause flocculation or coagulation to occur. Measurement
of zeta potential, which brings detailed insight into the dispersion
mechanism, is the key to electrostatic dispersion control. The simple
act of adjusting the concentration of ions in the system can bring an
improvement in stability.
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