Ken Carrigan wrote:
> OK... got me there...just seemed to the naked eye that it was off...
> but I believe ya! Forgot also to apply the 22.4 liters/mole thingy
> on conversion of mass to gas...but I'll skip it. <g>
>
> Now on a 'pressure' note involving sound... there is a company
> out here that has a patient on using sound standing waves in a
> cavity resonance mode. Taping this cavity at low and high points
> will produce low and high pressure ports. This 'solid' state no
> moving parts device can be used as a compressor but not sure
> what the COP is on it.. or efficiency of the unit. Very neat type of
> device though.. someday I'm sure this device's principles will
> used in heat pumps, airconditioners in cars/home and refrigerators.
> Also could even be used to replace small engines, forced air,
> etc etc...
>
> v/r Ken Carrigan
>
> >I believe that if you will take the time to go to the library and find a
> >book on old steam engines and boilers you will find the widely accepted
> >rule that one (1) gallon of water will make 1700 gallons of steam at
> >atmospheric pressure. I was taught that by my grandfather back when I was
> >a little kid and have never forgotten it. Norm
> >
> >Kenneth Carrigan wrote:
> >
> >> This somewhat follows the thermodynamics laws of PV=nRT or
> >> Boyles and Charles law combined. P=pressure, V=Volume,
> >> n= number of moles, R= gas constant (.0821) and T is Temperature
> >> in Kelvin. However, I do not see that 1676 times expansion. With
> >> only temperature changing and pressure - open to atmosphere.. the
> >> volume change would be on the order of 212F/70F or 3 times the
> >> expansion when it boils? Unless we are talking about something
> >> else like splitting the water molecule into O2 and H2... which would
> >> be quite an expansion! I think Keely split the water molecule into
> >> Hydrogen and Oxygen.. maybe even futher.. like the bubble in
> >> sonoluminescence where it actually glows blue at 10,000 degrees
> >> just from sound waves focused.
> >>
> >> v/r Ken Carrigan
> >>
> >> >Hi Boyd!
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for the interesting information which I did post to the list so
> >> >expect some questions..<g>..
> >> >
> >> >I was most intrigued by your comment about the expansion of water by
> >> >1676 times its volume.
> >> >
> >> >I knew nitrogen going from its cryogenic state to a gas state will
> >> >expand 980 times its volume but this was new to me.
> >> >
> >> >The reason I am so enthralled with it is because of a claim written in
> >> >the late 1800's about Keely type stuff from a guy who said there was a
> >> >'commonly known' method of producing a mechanically derived pressure
> >> >from water.
> >> >
> >> >Apparently involving cooling in the process but I'd have to look up
> >> >the details (only in a small letter to a newspaper which I've posted
> >> >here before).
> >> >
> >> >The guy says he ROUTINELY produced 15-17 psi for his experiments just
> >> >by somehow manipulating water mechanically....this is VERY IMPORTANT
> >> >and I've not been able to find anyone who has a clue about it.
> >> >
> >> >Why? Because he said that using this same mechanical technique he
> >> >could easily generate any pressure so desired simply by scaling up the
> >> >device.
> >> >
> >> >It was apparently a very small table top unit that produced the 15-17
> >> >psi.
> >> >
> >> >Do you have any thoughts on this???
> >> >=============================
> >> >---Boytrell@aol.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Today we have vacuums as high as 28.5 inches of Hg. Thats not
> >> >difficult to believe when you know that when water first starts to
> >> >boil it expands 1676 times, so it's easy to see that when it
> >> >condenses it must contract 1676 times.
> >> >
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