Re: Fwd: Dennis Lee was half way there.

Kenneth Carrigan ( (no email) )
Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:09:33 -0500

This somewhat follows the thermodynamics laws of PV=nRT or
Boyles and Charles law combined. P=pressure, V=Volume,
n= number of moles, R= gas constant (.0821) and T is Temperature
in Kelvin. However, I do not see that 1676 times expansion. With
only temperature changing and pressure - open to atmosphere.. the
volume change would be on the order of 212F/70F or 3 times the
expansion when it boils? Unless we are talking about something
else like splitting the water molecule into O2 and H2... which would
be quite an expansion! I think Keely split the water molecule into
Hydrogen and Oxygen.. maybe even futher.. like the bubble in
sonoluminescence where it actually glows blue at 10,000 degrees
just from sound waves focused.

v/r Ken Carrigan

>Hi Boyd!
>
>Thanks for the interesting information which I did post to the list so
>expect some questions..<g>..
>
>I was most intrigued by your comment about the expansion of water by
>1676 times its volume.
>
>I knew nitrogen going from its cryogenic state to a gas state will
>expand 980 times its volume but this was new to me.
>
>The reason I am so enthralled with it is because of a claim written in
>the late 1800's about Keely type stuff from a guy who said there was a
>'commonly known' method of producing a mechanically derived pressure
>from water.
>
>Apparently involving cooling in the process but I'd have to look up
>the details (only in a small letter to a newspaper which I've posted
>here before).
>
>The guy says he ROUTINELY produced 15-17 psi for his experiments just
>by somehow manipulating water mechanically....this is VERY IMPORTANT
>and I've not been able to find anyone who has a clue about it.
>
>Why? Because he said that using this same mechanical technique he
>could easily generate any pressure so desired simply by scaling up the
>device.
>
>It was apparently a very small table top unit that produced the 15-17
>psi.
>
>Do you have any thoughts on this???
>=============================
>---Boytrell@aol.com wrote:
>
>Today we have vacuums as high as 28.5 inches of Hg. Thats not
>difficult to believe when you know that when water first starts to
>boil it expands 1676 times, so it's easy to see that when it
>condenses it must contract 1676 times.
>
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