The general commitment response from the group on the Clem project proposal
was quite subdued. There only seemed to be a couple of people interested in
getting financially involved and I have heard nothing back on the topic
since a few days after the Clem project financing post. Gary Whitman may
yet take up the guantlet with a Clem attempt. Also, I was posted some
intriguing info that suggested that it may be worthwhile putting this
project on hold for the time being.
I'm fascinated by this method of compressing air. 35000 PSI sounds quite
impressive, I'm sure there would be potential industrial applications
galore. I'de like to hear more, but if you're thinking of patenting, I
guess I'll have to wait <g>.
ZPE is the F/E wild card flavour of the month at the moment (and probably
next month too). There's a first time for everthing I suppose, maybe ZPE
will pull through with the goods.
Great idea with the phase change/charge release. Shauberger was fasinated
with water temperature, stating that water was at its most dense at around
4 degree, from memory.
There was an interesting experiment I performed some time ago that involved
creating a vortex, in water, down a long glass tube. The tube was about 6
foot long and 4 inches diameter. At the top I placed an inlet hose, at an
angle, so that the water entering the tube at the top did so in a swirling
rotation. The bottom of the tube was fitted with a 1 inch central opening
that had a flap valve controlled so that the valve would open and close to
a preset frequency. With the valve closed, the tube was filled with water.
As the tube approached full the valve was opened until a long narrow vortex
was created. The inlet hose was adjusted so that it matched the water lose
and maintained a constant water level in the tube. I then introduced some
fine sawdust into the water at the top of the tube. The sawdust was
'sucked' down the vortex and at this stage the flap valve was energised and
the frequency adjusted. The result was that at the appropriate flap valve
frequency a standing wave was set up along the lenght of the tube. The
sawdust in the vortex began to coagulate into sphere-oid clusters strung
together like a string of pearls. What was absolutely fasinating about this
experiment was the effect of adjusting the flap valve frequency so that the
standing waves moved either up or down the tube, carrying the sawdust blobs
along with them. It dawned on me that by introducing the appropriate
pressure waves down the lenght of the vortex, one could 'pump' the inner
core of the vortex so that a flow resulted in whatever direction and speed
desired. This experiment was outlined by Shauberger and I've often wondered
if his implosion turbine used this effect. By introducing the correct
pressure frequency into a fluid vortex it would be possible to have part of
the contents of the vortex pumped in any direction and velocity required,
i.e. the outer vortex rotating fluid moving in one direction while the
inner core vortex fluid moves in another. Fascinating things, these vortex's.
Regards, Bill.
At 22:31 30/08/98 -0500, Norman Wootan wrote:
>Hi! Jerry and Bill: Remember back when we were discussing how we could
>finance
>the development of the "Clem" technology and I had proposed a side line
>product that
>was industrial in nature. Well I was surprised to read about the "ZPE"
>vortex announcement for my side line product so happens to be a super
>efficient method of compressing air or any other gas to as high as 35,000
>PSI and just may in the process
>be self perpetuating or O/U. Calculations support this idea but the proof
>would be in building the prototype. The math is solid therefore I have
>entertained the idea of starting
>the patent application and start on the prototype as soon as funds are
>available. I find it
>interesting that "ZPE" is also talking about compression "Hmmmmm". Jerry,
>if you will
>remember back in the days of communications with "Robert Bailey" I was
>discussing
>the generation of electrical energy by capturing the charge available in the
>phase change
>of a liquid such as water. Remember that there is a tremendous amount of
>charge
>at the phase change of water at the boiling point and also at the freezing
>point. A vortex
>as you know being implosive as shown by Schauberger and Walter Baumgartner
>will
> produce cold and can "flex" the water molecule above and below the freezing
>point
>very rapidly. Remember the blue/green corona that was produced at the
>discharge
>of the vortex flow. A perfect example of electrical charge generation is
>found at the
>London Polytech Museum in that of "Andersons Electrostatic Generator" which
>captured the phase change energy of condensing wet steam in specially
>designed
>nozzles. See, electrical energy can be generated at both the upper and
>lower Phase
>change points of any liquid or gas. Do you realize what you could do with
>either air
>or any gas or liquid at 35,000PSI?????? In volume to boot. Oh! by the way,
>don't
>let anyone tell you that you can't extract hugh amounts of energy from
>gravity. The
>point that all have missed is "What form of gravity are speaking of". Chew
>on this for
>for a while. Bill, You sounded like you were interested in the
>"Clem"development and suddenly you dropped it or didn't respond to my
>proposal of a side product. Mike got
>into trouble by proposing that we all display our wares and knowledge so we
>could
>work on it. "ZPE" is not the end of the "free energy" world for my idea
>could be as
>or better in the event that they are a no show at the end of the countdown.
>Norm