Jerry W. Decker wrote:
>
> Hi Bill et al!
>
> You wrote;
> > Perhaps another approach would be to have a specific proposed
> > project, lets use the Clem engine as an example. Construct a
> > realistic budget and works schedule including the particulars
> > of the researchers involved. Present this to interested parties
> > and invite them to partake in the realisation of this project
> > through an open contribution system based on what they feel
> > they can contribute. The contributions target must be met BERORE
> > work begins. Is it possible that this form of donation system
> > could work?
>
> Yes, shoot for a specific target. Clem is machine work intensive since
> it is mechanical and so might not be done cheaply. I met a student who
> spent a couple of thousand on a version of it based on the CEACU claim,
> not using Clems cone and his version did not work (based on plans he
> bought from Creative Science). He showed me pictures of it and said he
> only got it up to around 1500 rpm. He said it was 'a bitch' to balance
> at that speed.
>
> >From the limited info I have, it is supposed to kick in around +1800
> rpm. There is a chance we can get even more details if we could show
> this would be a serious attempt. The trick is the hydrosonic type
> heating that alters the viscosity and changes the 'impedance' of the
> fluid to produce a negative viscosity when in the correct flow pattern.
>
> You also wrote;
> > such as finding out just how much real interest there is out
> > there in collectively funding a specific project? Nobody need
> > send any money at this stage - just an indication of their intent
> > would provide a quick indication of the viability of such an
> > approach. Could this be made to work? I'll commit $100 to a Clem
> > engine reproduction right now - I'd spend that much over the next
> > 6 months on crap information anyway, partaking in something
> > of SUBSTANCE has a certain appeal. I wonder how many others feel
> > the same way?
>
> It would be an interesting question to determine. At this point, I am
> kind of in a 'stasis field' awaiting an outcome that prevents me from
> getting involved in any kind of new group activity. Can't say anything
> about it publicly but will know by 1st quarter 1999.
>
> You also wrote;
> > By the way, making a fixed contribution to such an endeavor seems
> > besides the point. I'm personaly not all that interested in
> > 'equality', I know what I can afford and I'd gladly share equal
> > footing with someone who can afford less, but would like to
> > contribute none the less. I'd also feel the same way towards
> > someone who could afford more <g>. At the end of such a project
> > nobody should expect anything more than the resulting information.
> > It is the resulting information that represents the real value -
> > not the machine.
>
> That is so true, and I agree, people should contribute what they feel
> such information would be worth to them personally. How much have we
> each spent each year on books, subscriptions, conferences, phone calls,
> 'plans' and all kinds of information that we hope will be for real and
> which never is?
>
> The question I think that will be asked, are there any guarantees of
> success...well, no, its after all R&D, but in my opinion, CLEM offers
> the best hope for a self-running mechanical device at this time and that
> information should be freely shared.
>
> Then we get into the mindset of the potential investors, why should I
> participate if I won't get anything back except plans or why should I
> participate since others will do it and I'll get it for free
> anyway....<g>...
>
> Has to be special people as sponsors of such projects, people who have
> vision and want to help make some changes, not the run of the mill
> greedy, selfish bunch who can't see beyond the next instant
> gratification session.
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