Re: Vortex Voltage

Ken Carrigan ( (no email) )
Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:26:51 -0500

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ElectroMagnetoHydroDynamic (EMHD) generator is what this reminds me of. =

Where water passes from two overhead nozzels down in streams through
copper tubes then hits copper wire screens. The screens and tubing are=20
electrically crossed connected and a potential of kV's will develop from =
the
extraction of electrons from the water. Almost like the VanDeGraff =
generator
where we take ground state electrons (like from water) and traverse them =
to
a accumulator (globe) where charge is built up. Fun experiment to try.. =
BUT
NO current is developed... just like in the VanDeGraff generator or the =
Wilmhurst
generator.. Static! One neat part about this small EMHD generator, is =
when
you do not 'discharge' the potentials (which are building..) the charge =
prevents
the water from flowing into the tubes.. and you get sprayed with =
water!!! Charge
does 'move' water.. after all.. <g>

v/r Ken Carrigan

Hi Joel!
=20
With regard to the following excerpt describing Flanagans' test;
> By means of another electrode touching the water he was able, when =
the
> vortex was moving at approximately one thousand revolutions per
> minute, to record a charge of more than ten thousand volts emitted
> from its swirling water: quite a boost from the cosmos."
=20
Joel Ryan wrote;
>> Hey that's really cool! Could the 10,000 volts be transformed =
into=20
>> a more usable voltage with higher current and power an engine to =

>> keep the vortex spinning? Or is that the obvious fact and the=20
>> reason you posted it?=20
=20
I neglected to mention the forced ripping of the water molecule =
which
releases high voltage as discovered by Lenard. The following URL
doesn't detail any of his experiments with water but he is the same
Lenard. Back in the 1800s, there were high voltage generators that
produced the high voltage from water moving at high velocity through =
a
tube that separated it with force. Here is one URL about Lenard;
=20
http://pl.nobel.se/laureates/physics-1905-1-bio.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I did a search on an experiment called the 'wasserfaden', literally
meaning the 'water fountain'. =20
=20
It involves pushing water through a needle, like the one used to air =
up
a football or basketball, at a velocity approaching 100psi...the =
water
is shot downward in a high velocity stream into a tin bucket that is
coated in wax so that it won't short out to the floor. =20
=20
As the water exits the head through the needle to stream into the
insulated bucket, some of the droplets are forced apart into a very =
fine
mist which is highly charged and which glows and levitates in an =
orbit
around the needle. =20
=20
I saw Walter Baumgartner do this same experiment in Los Angeles and =
they
turned out the lights but the water was so 'dead' in LA that it =
didn't
hold much of a charge, so didn't glow too much but it did levitate =
and
orbit around the needle, roughly in an 8-10" circle with the needle =
in
the center.
=20
The ability of water to hold a charge is referred to as the 'zeta
potential' and the higher this zeta potential, the more life giving =
the
water is to drink and live on.
=20
Now I did a search on 'wasserfaden' and found a German page on who =
else
but Viktor Schauberger at;
=20
http://www.pks.or.at/Viktor.htm
=20
where I excerpted the following interesting comment;
=20
"Er beauftragt seinen Sohn Walter mit der Wiederholung der
=93Wasserfaden-Versuche": Es werden Spannungen bis 20.000 Volt =
erreicht.=20
=20
which I pasted to the AltaVista language translator at;
=20
http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate?
=20
to provide the following German to English text;
=20
"He assigns his son walter the repetition of the " water thread =
attempts
"Voltages up to 20,000 V are achieved."
=20
Isn't that interesting? Now voltage ain't current but does anyone
remember the guy calling himself ZPE who claimed to be able to milk
power from a vortex?? Then weasled out of the 'promised release'? =20
=20
Could this be part of that secret? =20
--=20
Jerry Wayne Decker / jdecker@keelynet.com
http://keelynet.com / "From an Art to a Science"
Voice : (214) 324-8741 / FAX : (214) 324-3501
KeelyNet - PO BOX 870716 - Mesquite - Republic of Texas - 75187
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ElectroMagnetoHydroDynamic (EMHD)=20generator is what this reminds me of. 
Where =water passes from=20two overhead nozzels down in streams through
copper tubes then hits copper wire screens.  The screens and =tubing=20are
electrically crossed connected and a potential of kV's will develop =from=20the
extraction of electrons from the water.  Almost like the =VanDeGraff=20generator
where we take ground state electrons (like from water) and traverse =them=20to
a accumulator (globe) where charge is built up.  Fun =experiment to=20try.. BUT
NO current is developed... just like in the VanDeGraff generator or =the=20Wilmhurst
generator.. Static!    One neat part about this =small EMHD=20generator, is when
you do not 'discharge' the potentials (which are building..) the =charge=20prevents
the water from flowing into the tubes.. and you get sprayed with=20water!!!  Charge
does 'move' water.. after all.. <g>
 
v/r Ken Carrigan

 
Hi =Joel!

With=20 regard to the following excerpt describing Flanagans' test;
> =By means=20 of another electrode touching the water he was able, when =the
> vortex=20 was moving at approximately one thousand revolutions per
> =minute, to=20 record a charge of more than ten thousand volts emitted
> from =its=20 swirling water: quite a boost from the cosmos."

Joel =Ryan=20 wrote;
>>  Hey that's really cool!  Could the =10,000=20 volts be transformed into
>>  a more usable voltage =with=20 higher current and power an engine to
>>  keep the =vortex=20 spinning?  Or is that the obvious fact and the =
>> =20 reason you posted it?

I neglected to mention the forced =ripping of=20 the water molecule which
releases high voltage as discovered by=20 Lenard.  The following URL
doesn't detail any of his =experiments=20 with water but he is the same
Lenard.  Back in the 1800s, =there were=20 high voltage generators that
produced the high voltage from water =moving=20 at high velocity through a
tube that separated it with =force.  Here=20 is one URL about Lenard;

http://pl.n=obel.se/laureates/physics-1905-1-bio.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I=20 did a search on an experiment called the 'wasserfaden', =literally
meaning=20 the 'water fountain'. 

It involves pushing water =through a=20 needle, like the one used to air up
a football or basketball, at =a=20 velocity approaching 100psi...the water
is shot downward in a =high=20 velocity stream into a tin bucket that is
coated in wax so that =it won't=20 short out to the floor. 

As the water exits the head =through=20 the needle to stream into the
insulated bucket, some of the =droplets are=20 forced apart into a very fine
mist which is highly charged and =which=20 glows and levitates in an orbit
around the needle.  =

I saw=20 Walter Baumgartner do this same experiment in Los Angeles and =they
turned=20 out the lights but the water was so 'dead' in LA that it =didn't
hold much=20 of a charge, so didn't glow too much but it did levitate =and
orbit around=20 the needle, roughly in an 8-10" circle with the needle =in
the=20 center.

The ability of water to hold a charge is referred to =as the=20 'zeta
potential' and the higher this zeta potential, the more =life giving=20 the
water is to drink and live on.

Now I did a search on=20 'wasserfaden' and found a German page on who else
but Viktor =Schauberger=20 at;

http://www.pks.or.at/Viktor.htm<=/A>

where=20 I excerpted the following interesting comment;

"Er =beauftragt=20 seinen Sohn Walter mit der Wiederholung=20 der
“Wasserfaden-Versuche": Es werden Spannungen bis =20.000=20 Volt erreicht.

which I pasted to the AltaVista language =translator=20 at;

http://babelfis=h.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate?

to=20 provide the following German to English text;

"He =assigns his=20 son walter the repetition of the " water thread=20 attempts
"Voltages up to 20,000 V are =achieved."

Isn't=20 that interesting?  Now voltage ain't current but does=20 anyone
remember the guy calling himself ZPE who claimed to be =able to=20 milk
power from a vortex??  Then weasled out of the ='promised=20 release'? 

Could this be part of that secret?  =
--=20
           =Jerry Wayne=20 Decker  /   jdecker@keelynet.com
 &n=bsp;      =20 http://keelynet.com   =/ =20 "From an Art to a =Science"
      Voice=20 : (214) 324-8741   /   FAX :  (214)=20 324-3501
   KeelyNet - PO BOX 870716 - Mesquite - =Republic of=20 Texas -=20 =75187

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