Re: Stanley Meyers and his Patents.

Harvey Norris ( (no email) )
Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:34:03 PST

On Sat, 07 Nov 1998 19:08:30 +1100, Adam S. wrote:

> Hi there everyone.
>
> Most of you have been here for a long time i'm sure so you have all
> probably gone over this a thousand times but here is
> my question:
>
> I have read Mr. Meyers patents reguarding extracting hydrogen from the
> water molecule.
> It seemed quite straightforward but has anyone managed to succesfully
> recreate the experiment?
>
>>Hi Adam. It appears like your clock may be off by a year or so. I
conducted an experiment on a Meyer spin off idea but burnt up some expensive
diodes in the process. This was simple carelessness in thinking when I
assumed that an electrolysis machine could act solely as a capacity and not
a short. But undoubtably this experiment will be repeated again when time
and means become available. Here was my stategy.
1) First the electrolysizor must be given a value of acting capacity. It was
my failure to find this that led to confusion and mistakes.
2) Choose an inductor value that would resonate at 120 hertz corresponding
to 120 dc pulses per second that is obtained from a pulsed dc full wave
rectification diode assembly. This pulsed dc input should have no capacity
placed across the output to smooth out the ripple as is commonly employed.
What is being tried is the self acting capacity contained in the
electrolysizor to serve this purpose. Once this value is ascertained two
combinations can be tried
3)The first try I made was in series in which the inductor can limit the
amperage flow. In the case of my experiment this limiting current value was
way too low to note any effects of the LC combination.
4) The next try of course would be to combine these in parallel. But then
you should make sure your diodes can handle the amperage conditions you are
about to invoke.This is what happens when you hang around ac conceptual
habits too long and carelessly apply them to dc. Ordinarily that circuit
would act as a maximum impedance if it were ac and the electrolysizor acted
purely as a capacity. However neither of these conditions prevail in the
real dc world and my diodes became puffs of smoke. They say it costs a lot
of money for them guys to stuff all that smoke in there, and when you let it
out by accident it dont work no more.
5)In order to arrive at a possible acting capacitive value of the
electrolysizor: formulas might be applied. I found the acting dielectric
constant of pure water is about 40 and not 80 as listed in books. The
addition of an electrolyte may increase a capacitive meter reading thousands
fold or it may simply go off all the scales so it doesnt seem like a meter
is any help. The best method I would suggest is to simply hook a known
capacitance to the electrolysizor and note the change in total amperage
conduction that occurs as a difference. This will give an imaginary
capacitance in series with the known value. This is the method I will try
the next time this thing is attempted. You may also wish to read Meyers
Electrolysis entree at www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb124201 HDN
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