Re: The problem

John Berry ( antigrav@ihug.co.nz )
Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:15:54 +1300

It's not easy? Your pulling my leg!
All I can say is that it is going to be a lot easier in a group to find these
things than an individual effort, So I believe that unless we are going to give
up on this then this is one of the few really different ways to go about it.

John Berry

Djsquires@aol.com wrote:

> In response to the request for people to really do something,
> either with monetary donation or time and effort....
>
> I have been doing something for the last couple years now.
> I think the reason we don't see anything is that it is not so
> simple a thing to get an overunity system. As one on the list
> said, it is expensive and time consuming. I am more than
> willing to share information. I have been corresponding with
> Jean-Louis Naudin for awhile. He seems to be the only one
> doing any really visible research along with Stefan Hartmann
> and a few others. Tom Bearden is doing research all the time
> but is not revealing anything because of the need to protect
> his patent position.
> If you look at the Naudin web site you will see the results of
> alot of research. Most of it doesn't pan out. The only thing
> close lately is the nearly 100% self powering of his Newman
> machine.
> On the Keelynet I see alot of claims being thrown around and
> alot of theorizing by quite a few who haven't done their homework
> and don't understand some basic concepts. I don't even bother
> to respond to those and I am sure alot of others just watch and
> wait for something that really works. I don't want to spend time
> on this net explaining and teaching basic theory to those who
> haven't really been diligent in getting the facts. As Jerry Decker says after
> 30 years of watching there isn't anything that really works yet.
> Some, I am sure,
> don't say anything because Jerry has said to
> don't bother posting anything unless you can prove it first.
> The best proof is a self power system running in a closed loop
> mode. Measurements can be faked or done improperly or just
> misinterpreted. Calibration could be off. This is why a self-powered
> self-feedback mode for an OU system can't be argued with.
> I have been an EE for over 25 years and started with a Tesla coil
> in jr high. These days I have little patience with things that don't
> work and are poorly engineered. So I can understand Jerry's attitude.
>
> Enough of my ranting on this subject.
>
> What I am doing now................
>
> I am building a different design of Newman machine to test some
> theories. I think something else is going on that Newman doesn't
> understand. He might be right, but I don't think so. I might be right
> or wrong. It is all theory until you have proof and understand it and
> can reliably repeat a phenomenon. So on to experimentation.
> I have distilled down all the claimed OU devices to what appears
> to be the central phenomenon causing common effects.
> This is PCR or phase conjugate retroreflection. This is a proven
> phenomenon in optics. A negative time field is responsible for
> a reversal of normal effects. Scattering of energy becomes collection
> that results in cooling. If more energy is demanded it is supplied
> rather than depleted. In optics a wave will repair itself if distorted or
> interrupted. The fiberfuse effect is probably a result of PCR.
> It seems that it might be possible to induce PCR with a system of
> electrons in a conductor. The question is how. I think some of this
> to a very limited degree is happening in a Newman machine and is
> responsible for the mild cooling effect. PCR in optics necessarily
> has to be interacting with electrons in atomic orbitals. So why
> shouldn't it be possible in an electronic or electromagnetic system.
> It is all related to quantum physics. Everything is.
> This is what I plan to test for in my Newman machine design.
>
> Anyway, there is my 2 cents worth. So somebody who is in the know
> give me some feedback on my PCR theory.
>
> Regards and Happy New Year to all,
> Dave Squires
>
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