>There is an ongoing debate that a hydrogen-oxygen engine as a closed
>system could not work because it is a violation of one of the laws of
>thermodynamics - it could not put out more energy than was put into it.
>
>In other words, it would take more energy to split the water into its
>components than it would get out of the hydrogen oxygen combustion.
>
>One needs to step out of the bounds of chemistry to justify this
>self-sustaining chain reaction process. Remember that old concept of
>E=MC squared?
>
>Matter is Energy! Hydrogen and oxygen molecules are energy "packets".
>Water molecules are being used up as energy, which balances an energy
>equation, when the mass=energy is factored in.
Jerry, I believe that the cynics are right here unless there is an
additional energy source. I don't see how 2H2O --> 2H2 + O2 can work as
a chain reaction because it absorbs energy. However it is conceivable
that hitting the H2O decomposition resonance could be done free if there
was a source of energy at the right frequency.
I know that Keely tried to do this or claimed to do it, but I still
believe in the conservation of energy. That means that all free energy
must have a source just like it does for nuclear, hydroelectric or
anything else. Of course everyone wants to use the ZPE as a source, but
that would still require that it not already be in the lowest state and
that we are able to let it get to a lower state.
I believe that the ZPE is not a uniform distribution and so there are
possibilities. In particular I think that a whole host of frequencies
exist that have extra energy that we can tap. IMO some of these are
.0001 Hz, .0002 Hz, .006 Hz, .003 Hz, 7.5 Hz (Schumann resonance and
others nearby), 172.5 kHz, 5.5 GHz and others. The question is whether
they might be more effective than present energy sources such as
hydroelectric, or worse than solar power, wind etc.
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