Re: Standind wave in a magnet

Jerry W. Decker ( (no email) )
Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:27:47 -0500

Hi Hex et al!

You wrote;
> Now that I think about it - wouldn't that be a necessity? (I mean -
> wouldn't it be *NECCESSARY* for both magnetic and electric fields
> to be present to satisfy that good old principle of 'for every
> action there is a equal and opposite reaction'???)

EXCELLENT POINT! That both must be present....this is getting intensely
interesting....by forcing a SEPARATION so that the two cannot react to
each other....and I like your idea of a wheel..

I always considered electricity the CHILD of magnetism since by cutting
a magnetic field with the crystalline structure of a wire, you induce
current flow and thus electricity.

And we've not even brought in superconductivity where there is NO
ELECTRICITY, ONLY PURE MAGNETIC CURRENT that is REPELLENT to magnetic
fields. Oddly enough, am I wrong, or isn't there NO magnetic field
inherent in superconductors. Here are some InterNet quotes;

> The superconductor has zero electric resistance at temperatures
> below 92 K and expels any applied magnetic field.

> In 1933 Meissner and Oschenfeld discovered one of the most
> fundamental properties of superconductors. They found that a
> magnetic field does not penetrate into superconducting material.
> Superconductors are actually perfect diamagnets and not perfect
> conductors.

> But the superconductor will actually manage to remove the now
> present magnetic field from its interior. It accomplishes this by
> spontaneously running electric currents on the surface where no
> currents existed a moment before. The direction of the currents
> will be such as to create an opposing magnetic field to cancel the
> one present. As a result, the magnetic field coming from the sample
> will interact with that of the permanent magnet creating enough
> repulsion force to levitate the magnet.

So, a superconductor MIRRORS any APPLIED magnetic field to REPEL IT!

This is from David Hudsons comments on superconductivity;
> A material that is a superconductor literally, a superconductor
> contains one vibrational frequency within the superconductor. One
> vibrational frequency, a lot like a laser. That this light flows
> perpetually within the system. That no where in the system is there
> any voltage. So you can't hook up a wire here and a wire here
> to the superconductor and get current to flow in and out of the
> superconductor, because to get current to get off of the wire,
> you've got to have a voltage to get current on the wire, you
> got to have a little voltage and yet by definition a
> superconductor won't allow any voltage. So the material's a
> perfect insulator not a superconductor. But if you resonance
> frequency tune the wire so that the electrons vibrate at the
> same frequency as the superconductor, then the electrons will
> flow on as light, as electron pairs. They will pair up and flow
> on, because they're seeking the path of least resistance which
> is the superconductor. Okay?
> So, it is different than an ordinary conductor and shouldn't be
> thought of as electricity, it's light. All right, now, the
> amazing thing is, if you resonance frequency tune this conductor
> to the frequency of the superconductor then energy starts
> flowing on, but it's flowing on as light. Any amount of light
> can exist in the same space-time. There's only so much
> electricity can flow on the conductor, but light can flow on
> forever. And so it just flows on and flows on and flows on and
> flows on, but you don't have to take it off... Now around the
> superconductor it forms a Meissner field. The Meissner field
> has no north or south pole, it's just a field, but it's unique
> in that it has no north or south pole. The largeness of that
> magnetic field is proportional to the amount of light that is
> flowing within the superconductor......Now, the strange thing
> abouta Meissner field is other Meissner fields, that oscillates
> at the same frequency, can enter that field and not perturb it.
> So as long as there is no volts, you could touch it, you could
> feel it, it's hundreds of thousands of amps, but no tickle, no
> tingle, because there's no volts. So as long as you're in resonance
> with it you can approach it, you could touch it, you could hold it,
> you could feel it, nothing. But if you're not in resonance with it,
> you enter the field, you perturb the resonance, and it's a flux
> collapse, and now you've got voltage, and it'll kill you.

Hex also wrote;
> DC current doesn't produce a corresponding magnetic field, and
> yet the current flows.

I don't understand this comment. DC means direct current and when it
flows through a wire, there is ALWAYS a magnetic field associated with
it as in 'solenoid'.
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And that brings up another question, it is the MOTION of current through
the wire that creates the magnetic field, so if there is NO MOTION,
there is no CURRENT.

So what gives with magnets, where a magnetic field is present yet there
is no 'motion' as we consider it. Does this mean there is a CURRENT
flowing in magnets??? If so, why can we not tap it except by cutting
the lines of force??? Perhaps David Hudsons comment about resonance
might be a serious key...find ther resonant frequency of a magnet or the
flow of the flux lines and pull energy off by resonance alone.

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