Re: Graduated Forcefalls

Hexslinger ( hexslngr@internet-frontier.net )
Tue, 17 Feb 1998 00:51:52 -0800 (PST)

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Bill McMurtry wrote:

> >snip<
>
> -- I've got some gripes about
> >the term "magnetized" - "magnetized" objects, simply aren't. Lines of
> >force - aren't (they're the spirals of the swirling vortex into a neutral
> >center). But anyway, what was I going to say...
> >
> >snip<
>
> Hi Hexslinger,
>
> what do you mean you have some gripes about the term "magnetised". Please
> explain.

It is my intent to prove once and for all that 'magnetized' is a
misnomer... what we call 'magnetism' is actually the flow of charge from
one point to another, due to either a defficiency of charge, or a
abundance of charge (defficiency or abundance determines whether objects
will be attracted or repelled by this 'magnetized' object). That's my
objection. This has nothing to do with magnetic fields at all -- that's
scalar charge, not vector flux. [I really hate this word dance, don't
you?]

> I thought that the old "lines of magnetic force" model was taken for
> granted as not being "real" (educational convenience). You say they are
> "spirals of swirling vortex into a neutral centre". Spirals of what? How
> might I demonstrate this?

I'm not sure if the lines-of-force model was ever abandoned - to my
knowledge it's still in use. However, I do indeed believe it is a VORTEX,
and not "lines of force" as so claimed. If we look at Keely's model of the
neutral center, we see that indeed the neutral center is seen as having
vorticies (or is that vortexes?) pulling energy in one direction and out
the other. That's how I view magnets... now let's take the conventional
'iron-filings' experiment. The vortex-explanation fits in nicely with this
considering that:

a) The 'lines of force' only appear AT THE POLES of the magnet, rather
than encompassing the entire magnet (it was scientists who hypothisize
that these were 'lines of force' that really are connected).

b) If these 'lines' really are the spirals of a vortex, you wouldn't be
able to see that on a flat two-dimensional surface -- you'd have to
SUSPEND the magnet and perform a test that could be observed in THREE
dimensions (so that the iron filings or whatever substance is being used
would be free to move in three-dimensionally -- and thus arrange themself
into a vortex, instead of those half-ass lines).

I've been trying to think of a way to prove this experimentally...
there must be a way to suspend a magnet in some substance along with the
iron filings without the filings simply sinking straight to the bottom of
the container the whole setup is placed in.

Any ideas on this?