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GreenFertility
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:10 pm
Post subject: Secret adjuvant in new avian flu vaccine |
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Hi folks--
anyone have any clue what's in the "trade secret"
adjuvant in the new avian flu vaccine? Of course Glaxo
claims it's totally safe, as it's been "used before." Uh
oh.
I've been severely immune compromised (CFSIDS, thyroid,
mycoplasma) by the mandated vaccines for my Fulbright
fellowship, and our son is autistic/cancer from the
thimerosal adjuvant in pediatric vaccines. I write a
"green" blog that's very popular, so I am trying to blog
more about vaccines without, hopefully, people thinking
I am totally insane. PLEASE stop by and share your
experiences, opinions.
Cheers,
marie
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Gary M
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Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:19 am
Post subject: Reply to GreenFertility |
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Dear GreenFertility: GSK's
proprietary adjuvant is called ASO4. It contains alum
and MPL. MPL stands for monophosphoryl lipid A. The U.S.
Army's proprietary (unlicensed) adjuvant developed prior
to the first Gulf War for use in a second generation
anthrax vaccine was called Tri-Mix or Triple Mix.
Tri-Mix contained MPL (monophosphoryl lipid A) and
squalene. After the war, Army scientists considered MPL
to be too toxic, so they began working with Chiron
Corporation of Emeryville, CA to develop an adjuvant
that contained squalene and water only ... on the
assumption that adjuvant toxicity with Tri-Mix was due
to MPL. This assumption also proved incorrect. There are
more than two dozen animal studies that generated data
demonstrating squalene's ability to induce autoimmunity;
and there is disputed evidence that nanodoses of
squalene in anthrax vaccine sickened countless military
personnel who received squalene-tainted vaccine during
AVIP.
Back to ASO4 and MPL. MPL was also a component of the
Ribi Adjuvant System ( I haven't checked whether it
still is). The Ribi Adjuvant System, or RAS, is a
derivative of Tri-Mix, which is approved for use in
animals only.
As far as I know, there is no existing data showing
whether MPL elicits an immune response specific to it.
If MPL is
immunogenic, it raises the possibility of a dangerous
"cross reaction." The human body is full of lipids.
Antibodies and immune cells responding to MPL might also
respond to other lipids in the body, thus breaking
tolerance for endogenous lipids (those native to the
human body) and initiating autoimmunity.
Sincerely,
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GreenFertility
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Posted:
Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:33 pm
Post subject: alum as ajuvant? |
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Dear Gary Matsumoto--
Thanks so much--may I presume it is appropriate to quote
you on Greenfertility.blogspot.com and link to your
wonderful book? I can't remember if your publicist told
you, but your book came out at about the same time as my
novel, and I did 30+ bookstores for my tour and saw your
book EVERYWHERE, but now it's hard to find...a situation
that needs to be rectified.
Alum:the NYT characterized it as a safe adjuvant already
in tons of things. Isn't alum aluminum sulfate, i.e.
itself a heavy metal and not great for you? Do you have
any comment on the safety of alum?
What I've found REALLY ODD about the anthrax vaccine and
the Gulf War enlisted/vets is that a nurse friend of
mine was actually taking care of someone in the ICU who
had an adverse reaction--cardiac damage. He was 19 years
old and they unsure of whether he would live, even with
a heart transplant. When I asked her if this was any
kind of a scandal in the hospital, she said no, it was
just another person she had to take care of. I don't
understand why so much of what the current admin does is
supposedly to "support the troops" and yet this
egregious thing is being done to them ON PURPOSE and not
by terrorist, and yet, NO ONE particularly cares, even
if it's in front of their faces--i.e., no one was trying
to cover up the etiology of this young man's problem in
our local hospital. My nurse friend was fully informed
it was an adverse reaction to
anthrax vaccine...
p.s. I recently saw that David Bloom's wife is active in
some anti DVT foundation, which suggests to me she
didn't find the vaccine-heart problems idea too
compelling. But I'm sure you know that the gene related
to DVT is MTHFR, which *also* has to do with inhibited
detox from vaccines bec. this polymorphism affect the
methylation cycle...did she read your book? Did you ever
talk to her about it?
Thanks again,
marie
marielee.net
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Gary M
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Posted:
Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:16 pm
Post subject: Reply to GreenFertility; RE: alum |
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Der GreenFertility: Thank you for
your kind words; and yes, you may link to this site if
you wish. I am unaware of any proven adverse reactions
to alum. There has been data suggesting a possible
relationship between aluminum and Alzheimer's plaques in
the brain, but I have not researched that. I only know
that correlation does not prove causation. I am unaware
of any association between alum and autoimmunity or
vascular/arterial/cardiac disease.
Melanie Bloom gave me permission to review David's
autopsy records. I never spoke to her personally. I knew
David to say hello when I was still an NBC News
Correspondent. After his death, all discussions
concerning a possible connection between his DVT and
anthrax vaccination took place with David's cameraman in
Iraq, Craig White, and his best friend, ABC's Bob
Woodruff, who, being an attorney, was working pro bono
on behalf of David's family. Craig and Bob take this
seriously. I am assuming Melanie does not, though I have
nothing to base that on ... other than her silence on
the subject.
Since those early discussions with Craig and Bob, many
military personnel have reported developing DVTs
following anthrax vaccination. Some military medical
specialists are tracking this. Since 1998, when the
Department of Defense began administering anthrax
vaccine lots proven to be tainted by nanodoses of
squalene, many service members have reported developing
post-vaccination autoimmune vasculitis, Churg's Strauss
syndrome, endocarditis, myocarditis, collagen vascular
disease, cardiomyopathy, polyarteritis nodosa and
cerebrovascular accident (CVA). Most of these adverse
reactions are listed on the package insert for Biothrax
(the licensed human anthrax vaccine). However, as NBC's
Craig White reported to me, as have military personnel,
the military draws anthrax vaccine in the field from
multi-dose aliquots that do not come with a package
insert for service members to read.
Thanks again for your interest ... and for writing.
Sincerely,
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Gary M
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Posted:
Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:17 pm
Post subject: Reply to GreenFertility; RE: alum |
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Dear GreenFertility: Thank you
for your kind words; and yes, you may link to this site
if you wish. I am unaware of any proven adverse
reactions to alum. There has been data suggesting a
possible relationship between aluminum and Alzheimer's
plaques in the brain, but I have not researched that. I
only know that correlation does not prove causation. I
am unaware of any association between alum and
autoimmunity or vascular/arterial/cardiac disease.
Melanie Bloom gave me permission to review David's
autopsy records. I never spoke to her personally. I knew
David to say hello when I was still an NBC News
Correspondent. After his death, all discussions
concerning a possible connection between his DVT and
anthrax vaccination took place with David's cameraman in
Iraq, Craig White, and his best friend, ABC's Bob
Woodruff, who, being an attorney, was working pro bono
on behalf of David's family. Craig and Bob take this
seriously. I am assuming Melanie does not, though I have
nothing to base that on ... other than her silence on
the subject.
Since those early discussions with Craig and Bob, many
military personnel have reported developing DVTs
following anthrax vaccination. Some military medical
specialists are tracking this. Since 1998, when the
Department of Defense began administering anthrax
vaccine lots proven to be tainted by nanodoses of
squalene, many service members have reported developing
post-vaccination autoimmune vasculitis, Churg's Strauss
syndrome, endocarditis, myocarditis, collagen vascular
disease, cardiomyopathy, polyarteritis nodosa and
cerebrovascular accident (CVA). Most of these adverse
reactions are listed on the package insert for Biothrax
(the licensed human anthrax vaccine). However, as NBC's
Craig White reported to me, as have military personnel,
the military draws anthrax vaccine in the field from
multi-dose aliquots that do not come with a package
insert for service members to read.
Thanks again for your interest ... and for writing.
Sincerely,
_________________
Gary Matsumoto
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