[back] Richard Dawkins
[Debunking appears to be a pseudonym for suppressing. The US has been using remote viewing for decades http://www.whale.to/b/remote_viewing.html. And any decent psychic will read your mind or anyone elses if you ask them, called mind reading, a well know ability well used by all governments. Hennessey found out the real elite are telepaths http://www.whale.to/b/hennessey_h.html. Which is another story. The only question is: is Richard Dawkins in on the game or a willing dupe?]
News Release from Rupert Sheldrake Online
11th January 2008
From Rupert Sheldrake
"Richard Dawkins Comes to Call" has just been published in
Network Review: The Journal of the Scientific
and Medical Network and is now on the web site - It is also pasted below.
Richard Dawkins comes to call
Rupert Sheldrake
Richard Dawkins is a man with a mission – the eradication of religion and
superstition, and their total replacement with science and reason. Channel 4 TV
has repeatedly provided him with a pulpit. His two-part polemic in August 2007,
called Enemies of Reason, was a sequel
to his 2006 diatribe against religion, The Root
of All Evil?
Soon before Enemies of Reason was filmed, the production company, IWC Media,
told me that Richard Dawkins wanted to visit me to discuss my research on
unexplained abilities of people and animals. I was reluctant to take part, but
the company’s representative assured me that
“this documentary, at Channel 4’s
insistence, will be an entirely more balanced affair than
The Root of All Evil was.” She
added, “We are very keen for it to
be a discussion between two scientists, about scientific modes of enquiry”.
So I agreed and we fixed a date.
I was still not sure what to expect. Was Richard Dawkins going to be dogmatic,
with a mental firewall that blocked out any evidence that went against his
beliefs? Or would he be open-minded, and fun to talk to?
The Director asked us to stand facing each other; we were filmed with a
hand-held camera. Richard began by saying that he thought we probably agreed
about many things, “But what worries me about you is that you are prepared to
believe almost anything. Science should be based on the minimum number of
beliefs.”
I agreed that we had a lot in common, “But what worries me about you is that you
come across as dogmatic, giving people a bad impression of science.”
He then said that in a romantic spirit he himself would like to believe in
telepathy, but there just wasn’t any evidence for it. He dismissed all research
on the subject out of hand. He compared the lack of acceptance of telepathy by
scientists such as himself with the way in which the echo-location system had
been discovered in bats, followed by its rapid acceptance within the scientific
community in the 1940s. In fact, as I later discovered, Lazzaro Spallanzani had
shown in 1793 that bats rely on
hearing to find their way around, but sceptical opponents dismissed his
experiments as flawed, and helped set back research for well over a century.
However, Richard recognized that telepathy posed a more radical challenge than
echo-location. He said that if it really occurred, it would “turn the laws of
physics upside down,” and added, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
evidence.”
“This depends on what you regard as extraordinary”, I replied. “Most people say
they have experienced telepathy, especially in connection with telephone calls.
In that sense, telepathy is ordinary. The claim that most people are deluded
about their own experience is extraordinary. Where is the extraordinary evidence
for that?”
He produced any evidence at all, apart from generic arguments about the
fallibility of human judgment. He assumed that people want to believe in “the
paranormal” because of wishful thinking.
We then agreed that controlled experiments were necessary. I said that this was
why I had actually been doing such experiments, including tests to find out if
people really could tell who was calling them on the telephone when the caller
was selected at random. The results were far above the chance level.
The previous week I had sent Richard copies of some of my papers, published in
peer-reviewed journals, so that he could look at the data.
Richard seemed uneasy and said, “I’m don’t want to discuss evidence”. “Why not?”
I asked. “There isn’t time. It’s too complicated. And that’s not what this
programme is about.” The camera stopped.
The Director, Russell Barnes,
confirmed that he too was not interested in evidence. The film he was
making was another Dawkins polemic.
I said to Russell, “If you’re treating telepathy as an irrational belief, surely
evidence about whether it exists or not is essential for the discussion. If
telepathy occurs, it’s not irrational to believe in it. I thought that’s what we
were going to talk about. I made it clear from the outset that I wasn’t
interested in taking part in another low grade debunking exercise.”
Richard said, “It’s not a low grade debunking exercise; it’s a high grade
debunking exercise.”
In that case, I replied, there had been a serious misunderstanding, because I
had been led to believe that this was to be a balanced scientific discussion
about evidence. Russell Barnes asked to see the emails I had received from his
assistant. He read them with obvious
dismay, and said the assurances she had given me were wrong. The team packed up
and left.
Richard Dawkins has long proclaimed his conviction that “The paranormal is bunk.
Those who try to sell it to us are fakes and charlatans”. Enemies of Reason was
intended to popularize this belief. But does his crusade really promote “the
public understanding of science,” of which he is the professor at Oxford? Should
science be a vehicle of prejudice, a kind of fundamentalist belief-system? Or
should it be a method of enquiry into the unknown?
Rupert Sheldrake