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NEWS:  Dennis's new 45 city nationwide tour was advertised in a $70,000 USA Today ad to promote a new free energy design (he seems to be dropping the other products and the Fisher engine -which was never proven).  I was physically stopped from passing out literature at the Philly show. Read about his first tour show  , Akron  a USA Today,  CNBC, Washington, San Francisco,   Virginia  APBnews Report (fantastic!) Charlotte, New Mexico, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Alabama, an Independent test of Lee's motor  Radio report  Mansfield OH,  Warning by Oregon Department of Justice   His NJ criminal activities

I'm a skeptical electrical engineer fascinated by the 100's of people who have claimed to have free energy.  I saw Dennis Lee's full page ad for energy independence and apparently paranormal devices. For the sake of the world I wish such extraordinary claims were possible, but I'm concerned for his many investors if this follows most similar claims I've studied.

On September 23 1996, 3 other engineers and I went to hear him speak for 5 hours at the Philly Core States Center (it cost him somewhere around $100,000 to put on that show). It reminded me of shoppers home network, professional wrestling and Jim Baker. Among the many things we think deserve further skepticism are: 

  1. He seems to think the entire government and American industry is part of a huge international multi-generational conspiracy to suppress his truth. Dennis's militia and patriot movement rhetoric (and constant religious talk) avoids the only important question does the free energy machine work? 
  2. He has been getting in trouble. with the Law since long before he got into free energy claims 
  3. He implied that one Browns Gas machine ran on water, with out explaining the huge quantity of energy needed for electrolysis. He also referred to a machine running on air without making it obvious that the air was compressed from another source. I would have been impressed if the machines were left running for more than 5 seconds. 
  4. His scientific references frequently confused units of measure to derive unbased conclusions. I've since been told he lacks a science education and his former technical "experts" won't deal with him. 
  5. At one point he compares static torque with dynamic torque to imply that his weak air powered engine would have more power output than a regular engine by comparing its stalled torque to that of a running engine. 
  6. His biggest claim was a briefly described device that could harness latent heat from the air ultimately into electricity. I would have been more convinced if he had left such a machine running while lighting light bulbs with no wires attached through the whole show. Many engineers and scientists have reviewed his theory and found it flawed and basically in violation of natural laws of nature. I'd be more impressed if a team from the publication "SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN" "CONSUMERS REPORTS" would investigate his claims than lawyers. Dennis ignores my open $10000 prize offer for proof of a free energy machine and James Randi's offer of a million for proof.
  7. One of his machines with just little wheels rotating was claimed to put out more energy than put in - it quickly stopped in perpetuity. 
  8. He constantly interchanged units of power, force and energy. . He also operates much the same as Joe Newman.
  9. Many of his devices just ran a short time on a charge of compressed air and stopped -others were not demonstrated. I don't think his investors understood that he offers no real proof of claims. 
  10. He told us he had a brick battery which put out a volt of power. Power is not measured in volts (only in volts times amps) - besides you can get a volt out of a potato too, but the power level would be less than a watch battery. . 
  11. As a rule of thumb, warning lights go on for me when I hear people say stuff like: God gives me direct revelations, this invention needs a little more work to be demonstrated, I want people to invest with no business plan or formal contract. Yep when I hear a guy talking about God and money in the same breath I get the feeling that it's Money that's doing the talking. Also, most deals that 'are good for today only' are really about not giving you a chance to think it over - especially deals offered to exhausted people in a mass hysteria way past midnight. 
  12. A few late breaking odd things about BWT: his people  lacks education, but can't supply any engineers who support the theory.  Pat Robertson once lost $150,000 on an early scheme of Dennis's. They claim to have sold all 2000 dealerships. ( currently priced at $25,000 ) Dennis claims to receive revelations direct from God. His people says even they aren't allowed to access the machine. Dennis keeps promising a fair demonstration but ends up hiding behind a growing list of excuses not to demonstrate. As of 1999, they have been trying to get whole churches to put up "Seed Money".  Dennis claims he will sue me.
  13. Dennis's claims of high COP of heat pumps are mixing apples with oranges - because his units under test are SOLAR POWER ASSISTED! And there's an element of multi-level marketing in the dealerships. 
Dennis should be open to my offer to personally test his devices in the presence of main stream press people I'd love to see a chance for 3rd party engineers (like me) and scientists to do a hands on examination of his machines. In the year since I made an offer to prove his device, he's been unwilling to respond to me. For centuries, people have made false claims of free energy similar to Dennis's - such people constantly hide behind claims of secrecy and the excuse that evil forces are trying to stop them. Some also simply stop working on their free energy machines and start something else with out finishing it either. I think most people of science are like me - they love their countries, humanity and the environment and would love to see a machine which could make cheaper safer nonpolluting energy. Every segment of business (except the power industry ) would greatly benefit. How many Americans really want Iran and Iraq to continue getting hundreds of billions of oil revenue?

Dennis also claims that the steam engine has been designed wrong ! Dennis also won't offer open proof of an alleged antigravity machine. Dennis has changed from calling Yull Brown the greatest man alive to the most greedy man he has ever met - he also thinks OJ was innocent.

I feel that trained people in the skeptical movement are better qualified to examine extraordinary claims than Dennis's dealers. Skeptics usually takes on paranormal claims (astrology, ESP, dowsing, ufos) - but we feel that Dennis is fair game since his free energy machine would have to violate the laws of thermodynamics. James Randi has promised to pay Dennis $1,000,000 for simple proof of the machine. The scientific people who joined me at Dennis's show did not see Extraordinary evidence for Dennis's extraordinary claims - but we are open to any evidence which may arrive.

Update on BWT cult activity in Indiana  -  Charlie Doyle's account  (a former major supporter) - 
also Information for Media people
Why Dennis Lee should trust Eric to help evaluate and publicize the free energy machine and my open letter to Dennis Lee
Dennis's Lee's people respond -slamming Eric

Eric's FAQ page concerning examining Dennis Lee's amazing claims (read before asking me ?'s )
Eric's Page examines claims by Dennis Lee that the government suppresses inventors
Tom Napier's investigation of Dennis (excellent!)
Tom Napier's Free Energy FAQ page (new!) and Milton's Free Energy review
Tom Napier makes a scientific evaluation of Dennis's machine
Interesting Quotes From Dennis's Literature
A funny article about Dennis in Skeptical Inquirer and a review of my speech about Dennis 

Eric's characteristics of Cult Leaders
how Dennis is very similar to Joe Newman  the similarities are down right eerie
Eric's History of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines
Eric's experience with Amazing claims in 1986 (not all that great)
Posting of another Amazing claim of free Energy
Eric's Page examining Psychology of fringe inventors
300 MPG Carburetor is there such a thing? ( debunks a common urban legend)
What about strange claims involving BROWNS GAS?
Did the British get the steam engine wrong? ( by Tom Napier)
   Perpetual Motion discussion
A report from someone who worked with Dennis Lee of Better World Technology
Open discussion about claims of Dennis Lee (old )
How you too can get rich as the next free energy messiah ;) 
Malcolm's review of the theory for Dennis Lee's free energy machine
Evan Soule's response to Eric's mention of the Newman Machine
A review by P.M. of Dennis's Indianapolis show (of minor interest)
Dennis Lee Free energy emailings a list of Eric's postings (this is very lengthy)

The next step - helping disgruntled dealers pick up the pieces
Eric's Page describing Confronting a Free Energy 'Inventor'
Important considerations for dealers
Discerning False Prophets (this is my only work from the born again paradigm)
Why has the main stream press ignored Dennis Lee's amazing claims of energy independence
Another maker of Browns gas equipment he offers information on Dennis
Churches! Before you invest God's tithes and offerings read this!

Other pages SUPPORTING claims of free energy 
  • Dennis Lee's Official page it's well done. 
  • Dennis Lee, His Critics and the "Skeptics" - a loyal follower responds to some of my concerns
  • TCT dennis dealer -copies main BWT page
  •   another small time dealer -link last broken 
  • The following are web pages of dealers in the following states: 
  •  Arkansas Iowa     Nevada    Texas  Colorado Pennsylvania California Florida 
  •  pro-militia Dennis dealer in CA 
  • This site promotes Dennis Lee's Better World Technology - They won't answer my mail 
    Dennis's Lee's people respond -slamming eric Updated 3/99
    another Dealer from Nevada 
    Pro-free energy page 
    another pro report of Dennis Lee being in jail 
    A good over view of the huge world of free energy claims 
    Some old stale details on Brown's Gas and the latest My Brown's gas page and Todd Knudtson's Browns gas page 
    More information on alternative energy sources 
    Byron Wines list of Government conspiracies to stop free energy 
    other sources discussing Dennis 
    dealership for sale 
  • hear Dennis promise to install free energy machines by end of 1996 (333K long) 
  • hear Dennis's wife telling Dealers I'm backed by the CIA (100K lon
  • eScribe: FreeNRG Search   see what the people on the free energy discussion boards have to say

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