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  GOVERNMENT 
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  PUBLICFormer Department of Naval 
  Intelligence Scientist Discusses Our Government's Most Highly Classified Subject
 Considerable Evidence Supporting His Claims Evidence supporting his claims is considerable. In addition to his claiming 
  Naval Intelligence work at S4 (15 miles southwest of Area 51) 
  from late 1988 to early 1989, Robert Lazar claimed to have worked at the Meson 
  Physics lab, a part of the Los Alamos National Laboratories. The FBI is still 
  dragging its feet in investigating his employment there, even though former 
  Nevada Congressman James Bilbray asked it to investigate over four years ago. 
  Evidently, FBI agents are still scratching their heads, wondering how to both 
  deny his employment at Los Alamos and explain why his name is in an old 
  telephone directory of Los Alamos scientists. An article by staff writer Terry 
  England in the June 27, 1982 edition of the Los Alamos Monitor, which shows a 
  picture of Lazar standing next to a jet car and refers to his employment as a 
  scientist with Los Alamos, is also hard to explain. Two-dozen odd Los Alamos 
  employees told former KLAS-TV anchor George Knapp that they remembered Lazar. 
  Some of them said that they had been warned not to talk about Lazar and that 
  they were afraid to talk about him. Four of them, though, confirmed for Knapp 
  that Lazar had been working on classified projects there. After denying 
  Lazar’s employment there since 1989, Los Alamos in April 1994 finally changed 
  its story and said that he had been employed there. Knapp also talked to 
  former employees of the super-secret Groom Lake base, who corroborated Lazar’s 
  description of such details as how one gets to the base dining room, what the 
  dining room looks like, and how one pays for meals there. It’s extremely 
  unlikely that an outsider would know such information.
                                                                           
  
  
                                                                                 
  
  Bob Lazar  A respected, no-nonsense reporter, Knapp has a master’s degree in 
  communications and has won AP and UPI awards for his quality UFO journalism. 
  He accepts Lazar’s story because too much of it checks out. In 1989, Lazar 
  passed a lie-detector test arranged by Knapp. At MUFON’s 1992 Midwest 
  Conference in Springfield, Missouri, Knapp presented further strong evidence 
  of Lazar’s credibility. Lazar had mentioned that a man by the name of Mike 
  Thigpen had visited his house and interviewed him in connection with his S4 
  employment. Kristen Merck and Mrs. Wayne Higdon, two witnesses who happened to 
  be at Lazar’s house, confirmed Thigpen’s visit. Knapp rhetorically asks, “How 
  did Bob Lazar know the name Mike Thigpen?”
 The Department of Energy confirmed for Knapp that the Office of Federal 
  Investigations (OFI ... whose phone number is not even listed in Las Vegas 
  phone books) performs background checks on people who get clearances to work 
  at the Nevada Test Site or at Nellis AFB. An employee of OFI called Knapp and 
  confirmed that Thigpen worked for OFI. How did Lazar know that Thigpen did 
  background checks? It took Knapp phone calls, friendly insider governmental 
  contacts, and all his award-winning investigative skills before he found out 
  who Thigpen was. The W-2 form Naval Intelligence mailed Lazar is hard to 
  explain away as well. Knapp has examined this W-2 form, and copies of it have 
  been seen on TV. Further boosting Lazar’s credibility, John Andrews, plastic 
  kit division manager of the Testor Corporation, found out that the U.S. Postal 
  Service sends mail with the zip code NIC-01, the code on Lazar’s W-2 form, to 
  Naval Intelligence command in Maryland. Also hard to explain away is the unusual response the State of Nevada received 
  when it requested documents about Lazar from the federal government. The reply 
  said that information on Bob Lazar was on a need-to-know basis, and you don’t 
  need to know. This kind of reply is consistent with Lazar’s having had a high 
  security clearance.
 
 Further Supporting Evidence On October 17, 1993 Knapp, after recently returning from his trip to Russia, 
  gave some news on Art Bell’s Area 2000 radio show. Knapp’s contact in Russia 
  was a general who reported directly to the Russian counterpart of the 
  Pentagon’s chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. Knapp said that in the 
  Summer of 1988, a Soviet spy satellite took pictures of the Papoose Lake area. 
  One of the photos shows roads that lead into nearby hills where Lazar said the 
  discs were stored. Parked busses with blacked-out windows are shown near the 
  hanger area (In early interviews, Lazar had specifically mentioned being 
  transported from Groom Lake to S4 in busses with blacked-out windows). Before 
  May, 1989 (the date of Lazar’s first appearance on KLAS-TV), Soviet satellites 
  took only one or two photos of S4 a month, but after that date they took them 
  daily. For sale at sky-high prices, the photos are cataloged according to date, 
  time, and satellite.
 
 
   Image of the “Sport Model” Flying Disc  
 
 
                                                                            Cutaway View of the “Sport Model” Flying Disc 
 Antimatter Reaction and Gravity Amplification On several local Las Vegas radio shows and on Chuck Harder’s national For 
  the People radio show, Lazar has answered questions on the propulsion system 
  of flying saucers, or “discs” as our government calls them. According to 
  documents Lazar read at S4, discs fly by amplifying gravitational waves. 
  Gravity is actually two waves, identified as gravity A and gravity B. Gravity 
  A is at the atomic level. That is, the wave does not extend beyond the 
  molecular bond except in Element 115 (super-heavy trans-Uranic element 
  with 115 protons). This slight extension allows the wave to be 
  accessed and amplified. Gravity A is currently called the strong nuclear force. 
  The propulsion system is an antimatter reactor. In the disc Lazar crawled 
  inside, the reactor was a sphere, about the size of a medicine ball. The top 
  half of it was visible in the middle of the floor. Fuel for the reactor is 
  Element 115, UnUnPentium. On a Periodic Table, UnUnPentium, a super-heavy 
  metal, would be listed as UUP. It has a melting point of 1,740 degrees Celsius. 
  When it is bombarded with protons, it becomes Element 116, an element that 
  gives off anti-matter. In the reactor, there is an annihilation reaction 
  between matter and anti-matter. 
  
    | NOTE: | My “Nuclear 
    Gravitation Field Theory <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Nuclear_Gravitation_Field_Theory.htm>” 
    demonstrates the Nuclear Attraction Force that holds the protons and 
    neutrons together in the nucleus is the same as the Gravitational Force that 
    holds each of us on the Earth as it spins on its axis and holds the Earth in 
    orbit around the Sun. Robert Lazar mentions in his press release that there 
    are two types of Gravity Waves, “Gravity Wave A” which is the same as the 
    “Strong Nuclear Attraction Force” and originates from the atom. “Gravity 
    Wave B” is the gravity associated with the Earth, Moon, planets, Sun, and 
    stars. Robert Lazar observed that the UFO propulsion system amplifies 
    Gravity Waves coming from the nucleus of a “super-heavy” element, Element 
    115. I agree with the observation that Gravity Waves originate from the 
    nucleus of the atom. I disagree that the nuclear force and the gravity that 
    holds us on the Earth are two separate forces. In accordance with Isaac 
    Newton, the force of gravity is a function of mass and distance from that 
    mass. The electrons have a mass of 1/1840 of the mass of either a proton or 
    a neutron, therefore, the majority of the mass is located in the nucleus. 
    The gravitational attraction that holds each one of us on the Earth is the 
    integration of all the atom masses that make up the Earth. Each nucleus has 
    a very small residual gravitational field with it that goes beyond the atom. 
    In most cases, that field is so small it is not detectable unless one 
    integrates the residual force over all the atoms that make up a mass of 
    interest ... in this case the very Earth we live on. The reason for the 
    Strong Nuclear Force leaving Element 115 with a much greater intensity 
    outside the atom than for other known atoms is the fact that the one lone 
    proton in the eighth proton energy level for Element 115 results in a lower 
    intensity quantized nuclear gravitation field next to the nucleus than for 
    other atoms. With a lower initial intensity of the quantized gravitational 
    field next to the nucleus, the amount of “Space-Time Compression 
    <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/General_Relativity.htm>” occurring near 
    the nucleus is reduced. The intensity of the Strong Nuclear Force drops off 
    more gradually resulting in a greater intensity of the Strong Nuclear Force 
    outside the atom. This “Space-Time Compression <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/General_Relativity.htm>” 
    effect takes place between the nucleus and the electron cloud, therefore has 
    no effect on the overall diameter of the atom. This discussion is not 
    intended to discredit Robert Lazar’s testimony. Be aware that Robert Lazar 
    was reporting what he observed. Since the current Physics paradigm states 
    that the Strong Nuclear Force has nothing to do with Gravity, it would not 
    have been obvious to any scientist that the forces were actually the same. |    
   The Matter Anti-Matter ReactorAboard the “Sport Model” Flying Disc
 The copper-orange colored fuel pellet aliens use is about the size of a fifty-cent 
  piece, and it weighs about 223 grams. Supporting the claim that UnUnPentium is 
  a stable element, Lazar notes, “... in that heavy ion research facility [GSI] 
  in Germany, they just discovered that in their dabbling in transmuting 
  elements, and as we got higher up on the periodic chart their half lives got 
  shorter and shorter. Well, for the first time they came up with Element 109, I 
  think, and the half life became longer, and they are seriously considering 
  that this may be a trend and that it may lead up to a stable element. And they 
  theorize that it would be in the Element 115 area. And, in fact, this is true, 
  and this is what this element is; it is essentially stable.”
 The wave that is produced from the matter-antimatter reaction is present on 
  the spherical reactor <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Anti-Matter_Reactor.htm>. 
  Attached to the reactor is a transparent wave guide which is tuned in such a 
  manner that it provides an easy path for the wave to take. It takes less 
  effort for the wave to travel up the wave guide than go elsewhere. The bottom 
  of the tapered wave guide touches the top of the reactor, while the top of the 
  wave guide extends to the ceiling. Electric power is produced in 
  thermoelectric generators located at the bottom of the reactor. The generators 
  are virtually 100% efficient. 
  
    | NOTE 1: | In late 1988, 
    Gesellschaft für Schwerionenforschung mbH (GSI) <http://www.gsi.de/> 
    facility in Germany isolated Element 113. In early 1999, 
    Lawrence-Berkeley Laboratories <http://www.lbl.gov/LBL-Programs/nsd/user88/> 
    isolated Elements 114, 116, and 118. The isotope of Element 114 isolated 
    contained 175 neutrons and had a half-life of 30 seconds. This isotope of 
    Element 114 was short of being “a double magic nucleus” by 9 neutrons. 114 
    is a magic number for protons and 184 is a magic number for neutrons. A 30 
    second half-life represents a relative eternity compared to the half-lives 
    of Elements 100 through 109. Refer to the information provided about 
    Element 114, UnUnQuadium <http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Uuq/key.html>, 
    in WebElements. A discussion regarding the discovery of Element 114 is 
    provided in the article, “Pushing the Limits of the Periodic Table 
    <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Pushing_Limits_of_Periodic_Table.htm>.” 
    Robert Lazar’s interview was in early 1989. I believe a “double magic” 
    isotope of Element 114 containing 184 neutrons may be a stable or relatively 
    stable isotope. For this isotope of Element 114, both the seventh energy 
    level of protons would be filled to capacity and the eighth energy level of 
    neutrons would be filled to capacity. A stable or relatively stable isotope 
    of Element 115 may also exist containing 184 neutrons. Element 115 would 
    have 114 protons filling the first seven energy levels for protons to 
    capacity and have one lone proton, the 115th proton, in the eighth energy 
    level for protons and have 184 neutrons filling the first eight neutron 
    energy levels to capacity. Element 115 has a very similar nuclear 
    configuration to the stable isotope of Bismuth. Bismuth, or 83Bi209, 
    has 82 protons filling the first six proton energy levels to capacity and 
    one lone proton, the 83rd proton, in the seventh energy level for protons 
    and has 126 neutrons filling the first seven energy levels for neutrons to 
    capacity. |  
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    | NOTE 2: | I had the 
    opportunity to talk to Bob Lazar about the design and operation of the 
    Matter/Anti-Matter Reactor aboard the “Sport Model” Flying Disc during the 
    Memorial Day Weekend, May 2000. The following Web Page on my Website, “Design 
    and Operation of the “Sport Model” Flying Disc Anti-Matter Reactor 
    <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Anti-Matter_Reactor.htm>,” provides a 
    detailed description of the design and operation of the Reticulan Anti-Matter 
    Reactor and includes photographs of Bob Lazar’s model of the Anti-Matter 
    Reactor. |  
   
                               Blowup Cutaway of the "Sport Model" Flying Disc 
 
  The gravity amplifiers themselves are three tubes about two feet in diameter 
  and four feet long. They are arranged in a triangular configuration below a 
  false floor and above the bottom of the craft. The reactor is centered between 
  the three amplifiers because the wave is also present at the bottom of the 
  reactor. The reactor acts as a transmitter, similar to a Tesla Coil, in that 
  it produces its own gravitational wave, and, depending on how the amplifiers 
  are oriented, gravity waves can be focused on a point or spread out. On 
  gimbols, each Gravity Wave amplifier can operate independently. The waves are 
  phase shifted, which changes the wave’s orientation and plane from 0 degrees 
  to 180 degrees, thereby changing the attraction or repulsion of the wave. When 
  a disc operates on only one amplifier, standing on a pedestal of gravity, it 
  is said to operate in an Omicron Configuration. In this configuration, the 
  other two amplifiers are freed for other uses -- such as picking up cattle. 
                                                                                                   Omicron Configuration 
  
    | NOTE: | The Omicron 
    Configuration for operation of the Sport Model Flying Disc is essentially 
    the establishment of a “repulsive gravitational field” which allows the 
    spacecraft to hover over a planet or moon. A news article from the April 3, 
    2001, issue of the New York Times indicates that photos of a distant 
    Supernova taken by the Hubble Space Telescope may provide the evidence that 
    “Negative Gravity <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Negative_Gravity.htm>,” 
    that is, a repulsive gravitational field, can exist. This article is titled, 
    “Photo Gives Weight to Einstein’s Thesis of Negative Gravity <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Negative_Gravity.htm>.” |  
 
                                                                                      
  Delta Configuration 
  
  In the Delta Configuration, discs operate on all three amplifiers. This 
  configuration is used in space for long-distance travel. In space, a disc 
  tilts over on its back so that the gravitational amplifiers focus on where the 
  disc is going, and the propulsion system is powered up, amplifying 
  gravitational waves that are out of phase with Earth’s gravity. The 
  amplified gravitational waves distort space and time or “Space-Time” 
  <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Star_Trek_Physics.htm> as it is referred 
  to in the documents. That gravity distorts or warps space is currently known 
  in mainstream physics. That is why astronomers, at certain positions during an 
  eclipse, can see stars that are directly behind the sun (the sun’s gravity 
  causes the star’s light to bend around the sun). That gravity distorts time is 
  also known. For example, if you and a friend have atomic clocks synchronized 
  to each other and your friend climbs a mountain or goes up in an airplane, the 
  clocks will be out of sync when your friend returns (your clock is in a 
  stronger gravitational field). In short, the disc warps space-time, 
  attaches itself to the warp and snaps back <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Star_Trek_Physics.htm>. 
  Imagine a thin sheet of rubber stretched out (this represents space). Now, put 
  a ball bearing on the sheet (this represents the disc). Now, with your fingers 
  under the sheet, pinch the rubber at a point some distance from the ball 
  bearing. Keeping the rubber pinched, move the pinch to the ball bearing. As 
  you bring the pinch back to its original position, the ball bearing will 
  follow. This is an analogy of what happens.
                                                                                                  
  
                                                                                                                            
  
  
  Gravity Amplifier Of the nine discs, each different, kept in interconnecting hangers, Lazar had 
  hands-on experience with one he dubbed the “Sport Model” because of its sleek 
  appearance. It was about 52 feet in diameter. Before he worked on it, he was 
  given a short demonstration of its ascending about 30 feet, moving to the left, 
  then to the right, and then rapidly ascending from there. Before initially 
  lifting off the ground, the disc briefly gave off a corona discharge, a sound 
  similar to that of high-voltage electricity, and then it was completely silent, 
  its bottom glowing blue. The hissing and glowing are by-products of the 
  tremendous electromagnetic pulses generated from the craft. Inside the “Sport 
  Model,” Lazar saw a console and children-sized chairs. There were no 90 degree 
  angles inside, and everything appeared softly rounded.
 
  
    | NOTE: | V. V. 
    Roschin and S. M. Godin: “Verification of the Searl Effect” <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Roschin_Magnetic_Gravity_Effects.htm> 
    provides a study of the “Searl Effect,” which is the physics of generating 
    and/or amplifying a gravity field by use of rotating magnetic fields. The 
    intense currents flowing through the core plates of the gravity amplifiers 
    of the “Sport Model” Flying Disc generating the intense magnetic fields are 
    amplifying the gravity field produced by the Element 115 in the Anti-Matter 
    Reactor. Robert Lazar's observance of this phenomenon is consistent with the 
    physics of the “Searl Effect <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Roschin_Magnetic_Gravity_Effects.htm>.” |  According to the documents, the aliens <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Reticulan_EBE.htm> 
  are identified as being from Zeta 2 Reticuli <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_2_Reticuli.htm>, 
  the second star of a binary system in the Constellation Reticulum 
  <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Constellation__Reticulum.htm>. They come 
  from the fourth planet out. A day on their planet is about 90 hours long. 
  Although it is about 37 light years from Zeta 2 Reticuli to Earth, discs take 
  very little time to cover the distance because discs do not travel in a linear 
  mode. Speed is defined as distance divided by time. Since discs operate by 
  warping time itself and space itself, a more complicated formula than “speed 
  equals distance divided by time (s = d/t)” is needed to describe what happens. 
  It is not so much that discs break Einstein’s famous rule that nothing can 
  travel faster than the speed of light; it’s more accurate that discs get 
  around the rule altogether. Recall that Einstein died trying to understand 
  gravity. According to Lazar, gravity propagates instantly. 
  
    | NOTE 1: | Zeta 2 
    Reticuli <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_2_Reticuli.htm> 
    is the same star system that Ms. Marjorie Fish determined was the hub of a 
    holographic star map that Betty Hill remembered seeing aboard an extra-terrestrial 
    spacecraft and was able to draw while under hypnosis. Betty and Barney Hill 
    were the victims of a documented alien abduction that took place near Exeter, 
    New Hampshire, in 1961. While under hypnosis, Betty Hill described the 
    extra-terrestrials as 3 1/2 foot to 4 foot tall grey beings <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Reticulan_EBE.htm>. 
    Refer to the article, “The Zeta Reticuli Incident <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_Reticuli_Incident.htm>” 
    by Terence Dickinson. The children-sized seats Robert Lazar described inside 
    the “Sport Model” Flying Disc would be ideal size for beings 3 1/2 foot to 4 
    foot tall to pilot such a craft, consistent with the height of the beings 
    described by Betty Hill. |  
    |  |  |  
    | NOTE 2: | Robert Lazar 
    claimed that gravity propagates instantaneously. If one thinks about that, 
    it actually makes perfect sense logically. Gravity warps or bends space and 
    time. We measure the speed or velocity of an object by observing the 
    distance that the object travels in a given time interval. If the very 
    parameters that we use to measure distance and time are significantly 
    affected by strong gravitational fields, then it would be impossible to 
    actually define a finite speed to the propagation of gravity. A recent 
    article, “Rethinking Relativity <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Rethinking_Relativity.htm>,” 
    had stated that Associate Professor Tom Van Flandern from the University of 
    Maryland issued a document, “The Speed of Gravity - What the Experiments 
    Say <http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Speed_of_Gravity.htm>,” 
    demonstrating that gravity propagated at least 20 billion times faster than 
    light and may very well propagate instantaneously. |  When traveling at relatively slow speeds near a planet, discs again use 
  gravity, but in a different way. This time discs balance on gravity waves and 
  “fall” in the direction they want to go. Gravitational waves from the disc are 
  phase shifted into the planet’s gravity. Although discs are more unstable in 
  this mode, they can still perform maneuvers that are beyond the capabilities 
  of conventional aircraft -- such as making 90 degree turns on a dime or 
  accelerating rapidly. Those inside the discs experience no G forces during 
  these maneuvers. 
 
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