Neutrinos as cause of gravity/zpe?

Jerry Wayne Decker ( jwdatwork@yahoo.com )
Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:16:42 -0800 (PST)

Hi Folks!

Have to learn when working with yahoo mail to always
keep a copy of your extended emails either in notepad,
on the clipboard or somewere as yahoo will either log
you out or jump out of the document and lose it...I
just spent an hour writing an email that went away
with when I tabbed inside the document..sheesh...here
goes again...
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I was speaking with a friend the other night and he
and I have been having discussions about push gravity.
He said he talked to another friend and was given a
paper on neutrinos as the cause of gravity.

I'd not seen that before, so did a search and found;

http://gravity.ontheinter.net/

Pauli predicted the existence of a tiny particle which
he attributed with having run off with, among other
things, the missing linear momentum. The particle was
later named the neutrino, Italian for little neutral
one.

Although well accepted by physicists by the 1950s, it
was not until 1956 that the neutrino was first
detected by American physicists Frederick Reines and
Clyde Lorrain Cowan, Jr. Detecting these things is not
easy because matter is virtually transparent to
neutrinos.

Moving very quickly, they continually pass through our
planet, seldom striking matter. This is possible
because matter is mostly space, and neutrinos are much
smaller than even electrons.

(The popular belief is that neutrinos pass through
matter without affecting it.)

For almost every direction of neutrino bombardment,
the effect, or "pressure," is canceled by an equal and
opposite bombardment of neutrinos impacting the moon
on the opposite side.

The only direction of neutrino bombardment that is not
completely counterbalanced (in this illustration) is
downward, toward the planet. The reason is that
neutrinos which exert pressure in the opposite
direction are not equal in their force.

If neutrinos cause gravity, naturally gravity waves
are merely waves of neutrinos.

While an attractive pull is easy to describe, it is
unique to the gauge forces, and quite inexplicable.
The normality of the words may provide a facade of
reality to the theoretical concept they represent.

The gauge force meaning of either "attracting" or
"pulling" is essentially the movement of an object by
another object, without pushing. This concept is
significant, but not the actual word one uses.

Although the laws of physics apply somewhat
differently to subatomic particles, physicists
describe them as having tangible properties and
behaviors such as mass, speed, momentum, spin
direction, etc.

These physical properties are so familiar, one could
use them to describe a rubber ball. Other properties,
such as electrical charge, are not visible, but are
nonetheless understood in the real world's terms. By
our present understanding, a push may be intuitively
understood as the impact of one object upon another,
but a pull is still within the realm of magic.

One reason neutrinos do not harm living tissue is they
spread their impact over volume, not surface area.
Neutrinos transfer momentum evenly throughout the full
thickness of matter, so that the gravity on any
particular portion of matter is relatively small.

(As mass and density increase, gravitation will
increase at a decreasing rate.)

Defying the law of gravity is, in my opinion, the best
reason to understand it. This hypothesis predicts what
will and will not work. What will not work is to
simply block the flow of neutrinos.

Presently, stopping any particular neutrino is very
impractical, if not impossible. As I have written on
the main page, matter is virtually transparent to
neutrinos. If one could block neutrinos, the result
would be a massive gravitational push, all other
things being left unchanged.

Whether the "neutrino shield" is placed above a
vehicle, below a vehicle, or on the earth's surface,
the result would be the same as in figure 5 (a black
hole).

The "neutrino shield" would be pushed to earth, as
would anything near it.

If a vehicle was to be placed under an adjustable
"neutrino shield," it could be made weightless, but
the shield would weigh roughly as much as a portion of
the earth equal to the volume of the area directly
under the shield times the diameter of the earth. In
other words, it is not feasible to do it.

At this time, I can only imagine the following options
to overcome gravity:

1. Cause particular neutrinos to flow around the
vehicle.

2. Create a regulated, directional "neutrino shield."

3. Cause particular neutrinos to collide before
impact. (Majorons?)

4. Cause particular neutrinos to never impact with
matter.

A powerful and perpetual current of momentum-carrying
neutrinos could be a limitless energy source.
Harnessing even a minute fraction of the mechanical
energy could potentially spin all the generators on
earth and operate all the machines. This would not be
"perpetual motion," but merely the harnessing of
energy.
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Neutrinos as cause of gravity;

http://sites.netscape.net/clarencedulaney/gravpush.htm

R. Fritzius1 proposed a "push" type gravity caused by
"sub-quantum" particles, somewhere between the
fictitious particles of W. Ritz and the neutrino. M.
A. Gelman2 proposes that there is an ubiquitous
streaming of neutrinos throughout space.

Suppose neutrinos are stopped by inelastic collisions
with atoms.

The absorbed neutrinos must provide their energy to
the moon either from total destruction (mc2) or by
conversion of their kinetic energy into heat.

Looking at possible temperature rise due to inelastic
collision of the neutrinos, the mass of 1.9830 x 109
kg/sec at an average speed of 300km/sec would lead to
a temperature increase of 0.1003 °C/day. The moon
should be easily able to dissipate such an increase,
since it has no atmosphere to hold the heat in. The
temperature increase in both cases is directly
proportional to the mass of the neutrinos involved.

It thus appears possible that the gravitational force
holding the moon in its orbit could be due to
differential absorption of neutrinos from the
"spaceward" side as compared to those from the
"earthward" side.

The temperature and mass increases appear reasonable
for such a system. All that would be necessary is
non-zero mass neutrinos being absorbed in inelastic
collisions by the earth and the moon. Indeed, all
gravitation could be caused by such a mechanism. This
would obviate the need for "gravitational waves" and
the like.
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http://www.phys.hawaii.edu/~jgl/nuosc_story.html

A team of Japanese and American physicists have
presented evidence that the ghostly elementary
particles called neutrinos do possess mass and that
they alternatingly change their identities in time as
they travel.

We claim the discovery of neutrino oscillations
therefore mass.

The most dramatic manifestation of this peculiar
quantum mechanical phenomenon in our data is that muon
neutrinos coming from the far side of the earth are
depleted by about one half compared to those coming
from the atmosphere overhead.

Finding nonzero neutrino mass is, of course, big news
for elementary particle physics.

Neutrinos are the least massive subatomic elementary
particle in the set of building blocks of nature, the
quarks and leptons. Neutrinos have no charge, and are
the family of neutral leptons. They also do not feel
the strong force which binds quarks into protons and
neutrons, and protons and neutrons into nuclei.
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can gravity be induced (plasma/neutrino);

http://goodfelloweb.com/nature/cgbi/

The Sun is inducing gravity without a corresponding
quantity of mass. This phenomenon is brought about by
a plasma in a magnetically unified state; a
magnetically sustained 'non-space', an absolute vacuum
held in place by the photospheric plasma shell.

Nobel Prize laureate Hannes Alfven believes that
gravity results when electromagnetic forces neutralize
each other. Dr. Anthony Peratt also informs me that no
one, to his knowledge, has pursued plasma/gravity
experiments to date.
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http://www.hepl.harvard.edu/~thong/nytimes_sexy_nu.txt

In the late 1950s Goldhaber discovered the left-handed
spin of neutrinos. "Neutrinos," he once wrote, "induce
courage in theoreticians and perseverance in
experimenters."

Dr. Stanley Wojcicki of Stanford University in
California, one of the neutrino scientists attending
the conference here, compared the discovery of
neutrino oscillation to what light would undergo if it
could also oscillate.

"A beam of light in any color can be thought of as
composed of the three primary colors: Red, Green and
Blue," Wojcicki wrote in a recent summary. "Imagine a
beam that starts out as pure red slowly acquiring a
green or bluish tinge as it shines through space."

By analogy, this is a kind of transformation that
neutrinos are known to undergo, he said.
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Neutrinos as eventual source of mass;

http://www.jps.net/physics/cosmic.htm

The text proposes that neutrino oscillations inside
planetary matter are responsible for the fabrication
of new protons, neutrons and electrons. From this,
hydrogen nuclei are likely to form at the core of
dense rocky planets.

Slow neutrons produced from the oscillation of
neutrinos inside dense matter, may be fused into atoms
near a planet's core. This will result in new elements
production within a planet.
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On a side note...definitely...

while we were talking about old families, he said his
family was Italian and had genealogy records going
back to 1000AD or so...he said one of his relatives
was a Cardinal at the Vatican, he believes in the
1600s and there is a family legend that this Cardinal
had somehow gotten hold of a book called 'the Book of
Commands'.

He says the book was said to have all these specific
phrases that had to be pronounced just so and in the
right environment, and that it made things happen...??

Sounds exactly like the Veda claims of sound properly
intoned to influence matter and energy.

The book was something like a Grimoire or 'book of
spells/magic'...now this certainly surprised me as
this guy is pretty level headed but he said that is a
family legend and he'd get me the name of the Cardinal
and when he lived and see if he could get any details.

He said this guy was wealthy due to the book and had
done one of the rituals asking what would happen to
the book after his death, what he was shown so scared
him, that he buried the book in the walls or on the
grounds of the Vatican.

Has anyone ever heard of anything called the 'Book of
Commands'? Strangely reminiscent of the 'Ninth Gate'
movie that is out now, but which he said he hadn't
heard of?????????????????????

I asked if he was pulling my chain and he said no, its
a legend that he'd heard since he was a kid, and he is
in his late 40's.

A bizarre story...but I thought it was interesting
because of the tie-in with patterned sound or other
frequencies...that by phase conjugation and perhaps
setting up the right environment/conditions you could
alter the flow of these neutrinos like the Druids and
some say the Egyptians could do.

I always thought that aether/zpe could be slowed down
to actually create matter, or energy or mechanical
force but I'm not sure about the mechanics, more like
how to specify exactly the outcome you want, then
altering reality or biasing whatever conditions would
result in that outcome....magic by its natural
name..<g>...

And look at Leedskalnins Coral Castle said to be
constructed by levitating the stones by singing to
them which would be diverting gravity.
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One other guy I was talking with about the future
types of computers told me he saw a documentary where
a guy had a bowl of some chemical which was the
complete computer, with just wires and plates inside
the bowl.

He said they had the operating system and programs all
somehow written into the chemical and that it was
actually operating. He says it was on a TV show, some
kind of science documentary.

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