Re: TOMI patent etc

Jerry W. Decker ( (no email) )
Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:29:35 -0600

Hi Hans et al!

I have built and tested the TOMI and the Hamel spinner, both
of which work.

The Hamel spinner I cannot make work without an occasional
reset by moving my hand holding the magnet above the ball.

John Bedini showed it to his neighbor who suggested a slight
cavity be carved into a smooth surface so that when the ball
rolls out from under the magnetic influence, it would roll
up the side of the cavity and gravity would cause it to
return to the central part of the cavity, thus reloading it
so that it would never stop. To my knowledge, no one has
tried this very simple experiment. It would make a neat
perpetual motion type toy but of course do no useful work.

It would be interesting to get a piece of that magnetic
viewing plastic and hold near the spinning ball to see if
there is any kind of spinning magnetic field associated with
it...if there is, then a fine coil, optimally placed, might
induce a weak current that could be collected to light an
LED or grain of wheat bulb, or even as a periodic discharge.

Once it could be made self-running, I think it would excite
so much wonder that a lot more people would begin thinking
about superior geometries that might allow it to run.

That experiment where the guys used two large aluminum
cylinders, separated about 1/2" and spun by two different
motors to cause a magnet to float in the air and spin might
offer some insight.

There is also a device that allows you to pick up
non-ferrous metals like gold or silver with a magnet. I am
told it was used as a bar trick to win money or the sample
(ring, coin, etc.) as the winnings of the bet. It had a
magnet on the end and a fine coil that was brought very
close to the gold or silver coin...an alternating magnetic
field induces hysteresis type currents in the gold or
silver, making it susceptible to the grip of the magnet.

I think there are lots of clues here that just need to be
put together and experimented with...

Hans von Lieven wrote:
>
> G'day Keelynetters,
>
> In relation to the several ideas and patents listed together with the TOMI device it would appear that some of
> these devices only operate if the exciter magnet is handheld in order to obtain rotation, such as the howard
> "stonehenge" motor or the minato wheel.
>
> What I would like to know is, have any of you successfully duplicated one of these devices and brought them to
> rotation with a handheld magnet and failed to obtain rotation by mechanical means alone.
>
> If yes, please share with us your experiences.
>
> Greetings from Australia
> Hans von Lieven
>
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