Re: PM sale

Jerry Wayne Decker ( jwdatwork@yahoo.com )
Sun, 13 Feb 2000 07:57:09 -0800 (PST)

Hi John et al!

Thanks for the line on the PPM at eBay, your document
came through all weirded out, so I am reposting it
with details.

The guy has a starting price of 5 million in $100
increments, so far it shows 5 million plus $100 so
someone bid on it.

The storyline sounds like the Howard Menger case as he
had a PPM that I have the plans for around here
courtesy of Don Kelly of the Space Energy Association
in Florida.

Menger was here in Dallas a few years ago. He is the
guy who claims to have been contacted by UFOnauts,
said he got a phone call that has buzzing and clicking
that put him in some kind of trance...once he hung up
the phone, he moved like a robot, constructed a nail
with wire wrapped around it, connected to a battery,
put an aluminum pie tin on top, zapped the nail and
the pan was thrown to the ceiling. Hysteresis.

I'll see if I can locate the plans for this magnetic
PPM device as it sounds very similar to timeline and
claim.

http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=257114519

This is the one and only authentic blue prints dated
1955- 1966 they have not been shown since 1967. The
documents and blue prints are made for or taken from a
saucer shaped aircraft for technology of a perpetual
motion engine.

These documents consists of blue prints for perpetual
motion engine small enough to fit in a car and blue
prints for a saucer shaped air craft. This also has
fact and experiment sheets all dated back in the 50's
and 60's.

This was tested and flown back in the 60's. Now before
I sell these to a car company. I am offering it to the
public market for collectors, oil companies, car
companies, arrow space technology and anyone of
interests.

I know this sounds unreal so to protect both me and
the highest bidder we will meet at a bank confrence
room and the highest bidder should have a historian
and a engineer with him/her so the documents can be
looked at for proof of age and technology then
transfer funds.

(These documents are perfectly legal and are not from
the government) for questions please e-mail
collector1956@yahoo.com
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Menger and wife Connie are on the net again as you can
see in the various links about the Howard Menger
story;

http://www.tje.net/para/documents/howard_menger.htm
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http://www.strodes.ac.uk/menger.htm

A trip to the Moon was part of the account, and he has
photographs allegedly taken on the trip. The book also
describes the construction of free energy devices.

He also has a picture in the book of a machine, or
part of one, which strangely is not mentioned in the
text. Tony Wedd attempted to make this machine using
the picture in conjunction with information from
thought communication, but was not successful.

Menger is currently engaged in building a craft which
he believes will fly.

Menger and his wife appeared recently in the TV
programme Farewell Good Brothers. Contrary to previous
reports, Menger still holds to his story, though is
obviously confused as to why the bases he saw on the
Moon have never been confirmed by astronauts.
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http://www.georgevantassel.com/HM/home.html

http://www.georgevantassel.com/HM/articles.html

This may be of special interest: On ABC's "20/20" TV
show Aug. 2, crop-field designs that appeared over
night were shown. The configurations were so
interesting and unique that my wife, Connie, said
jokingly, "It looks like the diagram of a condenser
and/or propulsion system."

I laughed until I saw the last crop circle design -
concentric circles with three equidistant intersecting
lines. This is a diagram I used to build a unique
power supply in 1951. This power supply generated a
high frequency pulsating voltage I used to power my
experimental Electro Craft X-1 in 1951.

When operating, this craft silently rose above the
ground, apparently being able to cancel out the
effects of gravity.

Incidently, proceeds from our book, "The High Bridge
Incident", (and movie rights) will be used to perfect
this and other alien-inspired technologies.
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http://www.martiansgohome.com/smear/v42/ss950320.htm

Veteran contactee Howard Menger, whose ufological
exploits go all the way back to the 1950s, is still
lecturing, writing books, and trying to get his
(supposed) anti-gravity saucer models off the ground.

He has a model about 3 feet in diameter that goes up
briefly, and he would now like to build a 10-foot
diameter radio controlled model, which would cost many
thousands of dollars.

Or, the ultimate would be a 40-foot version that would
have the power source as well as the human pilot
actually on board.

Meanwhile, the latest book by Howard and his wife
Connie is called "Threads of Light to You", which
"opens your eyes to endless knowledge, for ever
learning, but never knowing all". The book, available
this coming May will be mailed with an audio tape by
his daughter Heidi Evans, and will cost $25 postpaid.
More on all this later. ...
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http://www.magonia.demon.co.uk/arc/80/mkleg.html

Originally the novelty of the contact was enough to
capture the interest of its audience. Problems arose
in such contacts: the choice of the contactee and the
aliens' chary attitude to giving quality gifts
commensurate with their benevolent talk.

After a number of embarrassing incidents like the
Adamski photos and Howard Menger's recantation, the
fate of contactees was declining audiences. The advent
of abductions represented a fortuitous turn of
dramaturgy. Abductions brought aliens and humans
together, and then overlaid an element of conflict and
power.

It excused the lack of contact and gifts and, by
diminishing their friendliness, permitted a larger
measure of inscrutability in their acts.
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I could not find any details about the 'recantation'
by Menger. Will look through the caves and see if I
can find Mengers PPM plans and post them.

My hard drive crashed after about 3 years so my real
email and home service has been offline for the last
week or so. I finally got a new hard drive and
installed it.

Now I have to recover what I can from the old hard
drive, install the scanner, mpeg video card, OCR,
translator and digital camera.

Time to start adding a bunch of new material to the
website and I'm finding a need for a bigger monitor
than the 14" one I currently have...ideally a 19" to
do the videos and photos...so much easier to work up
pages when they are on a bigger screen....and a
CDburner would be useful.

Been working overtime when I can trying to pay for
material in an ongoing project, which will be fully
reported on when we get some PROOF that it works. So
far, bits and pieces and still need to lay out some
more cash but when you see what has been found to
date, you'll understand the excitement.

As to this PPM claim of plans on eBay, it might NOT be
Menger, but I'd bet on it that it is him since he and
his wife are nettable these days.

If you have plans that really work, why not build the
machine and sell it, have it thoroughly tested and
verified as working as claimed.

Do some serious testing showing input vs output, maybe
even a video clip or webcam showing the thing in
continuous operation...so people could check it and
see if the bunny died yet (everready bunny of
course)..<g>..something that would be great for the
museum as a live demo and that could draw hits to the
site, garnering income from advertisers to that
page...

I'll see if I can find the Menger plans and scan them
in...one other thing, does anyone have a copy of the
Adobe program Streamline or where can I get a copy of
it cheaper than the $200-$300 they want for it?

I have some crude line drawings that Streamline could
clean up and make more presentable for new pages that
might be useful. If you know of anything like that,
I'd appreciate an off the list reply to
jdecker@keelynet.com and if you want to contribute
for the monitor/cdburner, I'd appreciate that
too....now that I have 15gb to play with, its time to
finally start adding new material to the site,
including the movie clips...thanks!

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