Ok Then,
Hopefully everyone has the last one. I sent it as both text and HTML
and the schematic is in JPG format. If you are reading your mail on a
text only program I would suggest opening it in your browser or printing
it out to refer to as I explain it here. I drew it myself on Microsoft
Paint so no apologies for quality. You get what you pay for and you're
getting this free <lol>.
Let's take a basic overview first. You can see that the system
consists of a two chambered cell. I would suggest making the cell out
of a non conducting material (like PVC Plastic). There is a central wall
which separates the unit into two halves. As long as your water level is
above the lowest part of the wall you can keep the two gasses that are
produced within it separate.
The electrodes are fitted into the bottom of the unit through two
holes. They should be made out of a material which is a good conductor
and which does not react too much with water (rust). Copper might be an
easily available choice. Gold would be better ;-)
If you notice the tops of the electrodes are brought to a sharp
point. This is because I noticed during my initial experiments that such
areas (pointed ones) produce the really nice, steady, streams of gas. I
imagine that this is due to the fact that the magnetic lines of force
are concentrated at these points.
Second, please note the little circles at the top and bottom of the
cell and how they are connected by lines. These represent coils of wire
wound around the cell so that an electromagnetic field is induced. The
strength of this field can be adjusted by the amount of electricity you
put through it and by the number of "windings" in your coil. This is
supposed to be a cut-away view from the side.
Notice the openings at the top of the cell. These are for the gasses
created by the cell to be drawn off and used or stored. At this point
several things could be added, depending on how you want the system to
work. For example we could put a pressure controlled valve in to open up
whenever a certain internal pressure was reached or whenever the
pressure in the line leading away fell to a certain point. In other
words, make it into a supply or demand governed system. We could also
rig it so that there is a switch that cuts the power to the electrodes
once a certain maximum pressure is reached and turns it back on once a
certain minimum pressure is reached.
If you wanted to use it on an ongoing basis you also need to put in a
water inlet (gravity fed would be fine) regulated by a float switch. A
drain plug on the bottom wouldn't be a bad idea either.
The box P on the right side of the drawing represents your power
supply. It doesn't matter here what it is, where it's from or what fuel
you use to generate it. The line from box P to box T is an electrical
transmission line. Box T represents whatever kind of
transformer/controls you need to put on to regulate your electricity
into the best form i.e.: voltage + or - and amperage + or -.
From box T you notice that we split the line into two. One feeds the
electrolysis cell and the other runs through the electromagnetic coil
which surrounds the cell. I did this because we assume that we might
want to synchronize the regulation of the field strength as opposed to
the amount of current running through the cell. We want to do this
because as one increases the amount in one, the amount required in the
other decreases.
Some important factors come into play here and must be considered
before we go any further. If you look at the other end of the unit you
will see that the transmission line exits both the cell and the coil and
comes together again at box J. This represents a simple junction box
which may or may not be required or an additional device such as another
transformer may be required here.
The next thing to consider will be that we really aren't losing/using
very much electricity in this device at all. How so? Because we have
made it all work in line as part of the transmission line. Imagine if
you will that this is a commercial power plant. The power source is
putting out 100,000 volts and we are putting the separator unit in line
on our main transmission line to our first substation. The only
electricity that we lose here is what is normally lost to resistance in
the wires and in the water. We are not grounding the system out at any
point here and whatever electricity is left over after passing through
this (which should be quite a bit) will then continue on down our
transmission line to be used wherever it is needed!
Notice that the line feeding the electrodes enters at the first one
and exits at the other one directly into the transmission line. So we
are sending that 100,000 volts through this. If we follow the basic law
then we need to pass 100,000 volts of electricity through this to
generate enough gasses to produce the equivalent of 100,000 volts of
electricity when they are burned together.
Think about that. Water, with a good electrolyte, is a very GOOD
conductor of electricity. Better than the wires hooked up to the
electrodes in all probability. So we won't be losing any more of our
charge through the cell than we would in a piece of wire of the same
length would we? All you have to worry about is the resistance losses.
Oh yes and also the losses in radiant heat that will occur due to the
winding of the coil. There is another bonus. You could probably utilize
that radiant energy to heat the water in your cell to the previously
mentioned, desired temperature of 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit to obtain
maximum susceptibility to separation in the water. Maybe you could also
include a thermostat controlled electric fan at one end of the unit.
That way if the unit gets too hot it will kick on and blow air through
the coil until the water temperature drops back to where you want it to
be.
Remember also that the stronger you make your surrounding coil (more
turns) the less of your energy that you need to send through the cell
itself. That way you can cut the losses there even more if it seems
indicated. Another thing to consider would be to eliminate the current
going through the cell entirely and instead just put a piece of
stainless steel rod through the unit with an electrode on each end of
it. The field you see will automatically orient itself into N and S
poles and will transmit this orientation to the steel and you should be
able to cause separation in this manner and still recover the gasses
individually at the proper poles of the magnet.
We will consider further additions and modifications to this basic
unit as we progress with looking at various devices which are designed
to make use of this fuel.
Later,
MJ
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Ok Then,
Hopefully everyone has the last one. I sent it as bothtext and HTML and the schematic is in JPG format. If you are reading yourmail on a text only program I would suggest opening it in your browseror printing it out to refer to as I explain it here. I drew it myself onMicrosoft Paint so no apologies for quality. You get what you pay for andyou're getting this free <lol>.
Let's take a basic overview first. You can see that thesystem consists of a two chambered cell. I would suggest making thecell out of a non conducting material (like PVC Plastic). There is a centralwall which separates the unit into two halves. As long as your water levelis above the lowest part of the wall you can keep the two gasses that areproduced within it separate.
The electrodes are fitted into the bottom of the unitthrough two holes. They should be made out of a material which is a goodconductor and which does not react too much with water (rust). Copper mightbe an easily available choice. Gold would be better ;-)
If you notice the tops of the electrodes are brought toa sharp point. This is because I noticed during my initial experimentsthat such areas (pointed ones) produce the really nice, steady, streamsof gas. I imagine that this is due to the fact that the magnetic linesof force are concentrated at these points.
Second, please note the little circles at the top andbottom of the cell and how they are connected by lines. These representcoils of wire wound around the cell so that an electromagnetic field isinduced. The strength of this field can be adjusted by the amount of electricityyou put through it and by the number of "windings" in your coil. This issupposed to be a cut-away view from the side.
Notice the openings at the top of the cell. These arefor the gasses created by the cell to be drawn off and used or stored.At this point several things could be added, depending on how you wantthe system to work. For example we could put a pressure controlled valvein to open up whenever a certain internal pressure was reached or wheneverthe pressure in the line leading away fell to a certain point. In otherwords, make it into a supply or demand governed system. We could also rigit so that there is a switch that cuts the power to the electrodes oncea certain maximum pressure is reached and turns it back on once a certainminimum pressure is reached.
If you wanted to use it on an ongoing basis you also needto put in a water inlet (gravity fed would be fine) regulated by a floatswitch. A drain plug on the bottom wouldn't be a bad idea either.
The box P on the right side of the drawing representsyour power supply. It doesn't matter here what it is, where it's from orwhat fuel you use to generate it. The line from box P to box Tis an electrical transmission line. Box T represents whatever kindof transformer/controls you need to put on to regulate your electricityinto the best form i.e.: voltage + or - and amperage + or -.
From box T you notice that we split the line intotwo. One feeds the electrolysis cell and the other runs through the electromagneticcoil which surrounds the cell. I did this because we assume that we mightwant to synchronize the regulation of the field strength as opposed tothe amount of current running through the cell. We want to do this becauseas one increases the amount in one, the amount required in the other decreases.
Some important factors come into play here and must beconsidered before we go any further. If you look at the other end of theunit you will see that the transmission line exits both the cell and thecoil and comes together again at box J. This represents a simplejunction box which may or may not be required or an additional device suchas another transformer may be required here.
The next thing to consider will be that we really aren'tlosing/using very much electricity in this device at all. How so? Becausewe have made it all work in line as part of the transmission line. Imagineif you will that this is a commercial power plant. The power source isputting out 100,000 volts and we are putting the separator unit in lineon our main transmission line to our first substation. The only electricitythat we lose here is what is normally lost to resistance in the wires andin the water. We are not grounding the system out at any point here andwhatever electricity is left over after passing through this (which shouldbe quite a bit) will then continue on down our transmission line to beused wherever it is needed!
Notice that the line feeding the electrodes enters atthe first one and exits at the other one directly into the transmissionline. So we are sending that 100,000 volts through this. If we follow thebasic law then we need to pass 100,000 volts of electricity through thisto generate enough gasses to produce the equivalent of 100,000 volts ofelectricity when they are burned together.
Think about that. Water, with a good electrolyte, is avery GOOD conductor of electricity. Better than the wires hooked up tothe electrodes in all probability. So we won't be losing any more of ourcharge through the cell than we would in a piece of wire of the same lengthwould we? All you have to worry about is the resistance losses. Oh yesand also the losses in radiant heat that will occur due to the windingof the coil. There is another bonus. You could probably utilize that radiantenergy to heat the water in your cell to the previously mentioned, desiredtemperature of 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit to obtain maximum susceptibilityto separation in the water. Maybe you could also include a thermostat controlledelectric fan at one end of the unit. That way if the unit gets too hotit will kick on and blow air through the coil until the water temperaturedrops back to where you want it to be.
Remember also that the stronger you make your surroundingcoil (more turns) the less of your energy that you need to send throughthe cell itself. That way you can cut the losses there even more if itseems indicated. Another thing to consider would be to eliminate the currentgoing through the cell entirely and instead just put a piece of stainlesssteel rod through the unit with an electrode on each end of it. The fieldyou see will automatically orient itself into N and S poles and will transmitthis orientation to the steel and you should be able to cause separationin this manner and still recover the gasses individually at the properpoles of the magnet.
We will consider further additions and modifications tothis basic unit as we progress with looking at various devices which aredesigned to make use of this fuel.
Later,
MJ
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