Re: Living in a Dyson Sphere.

John Berry ( antigrav@ihug.co.nz )
Tue, 05 Oct 1999 12:36:17 +1300

Ok
Here is the deal.
The permeability of space increases.
This means that more matter fits in a given "absolute" measuring of space.
an "Absolute" measurement is that taken without any spatial distortions.
Now because the permeability is greater at the bottom there is a spatial
distortion, and any ruler that we measure it with that does not change the
permeability of space so that we get absolute measurements will suffer that
distortion.
and so the distance between the two shafts at the bottom if measured by an absolute
ruler would measure less than the top, the exact amount that would be expected
mathematically which not taking spatial distortions into account is an absolute
measure of a type.

However because we are using physical rulers they shrink and so the distance
between the two shafts seems greater, indeed there is more dirt and more tunnel
between them, and so rather than measuring less than a mile as expected it measures
as more than a mile because everything that they measure it with will measure not
the absolute but effective distance, the distance effected but how much matter can
fit (rulers ae made of matter) can fit between the two shafts.

My theory works because the ruler used and the matter shrink by the same amount,
from an "effective" point of view the distance is greater at the bottom, from an
absolute point of view it is not any greater.
Note that even a light ruler should shrink.

Ok so I used the word ruler then I should have used rule but that was a dumb rule
anyway ;)

John Berry

Russell Garber wrote:

> I have to agree with what Peter wrote. If all the matter at the bottom of the
> tunnels suffers the same distortion, then the distance measured should be
> correct. If you are saying that the distortions are not equal, then we should
> be able to test for this by using two different measuring devices of different
> types (they should both have different results). Also, marking the positions
> of the two bobs on the measuring device and returning the measuring type to the
> surface should reveal the true measurement, no?
>
> >John Berry wrote:
> >>Of course your ruler would distort, it is made of matter.
> >>The ruler becomes smaller that is why the distance appears greater at the
> >>bottom, you are measuring with a smaller ruler, the matter ruler and other
> >>matter down there including a light measuring device will become distorted
> >>measuring the space between the two shafts as greater at the bottom rather
> >>than less as it otherwise would.
> >>that's the whole point.
>
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