Re: Time Claim

Lars Rune Foleide ( (no email) )
Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:45:39 +0100

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From: Jerry Wayne Decker <jwdatwork@yahoo.com>

> Interesting claim and of course I'm interested because
> you have offered to be tested. That would be a great way
> to fund alternative science type projects such as KeelyNet
> promotes and could do a lot of good all over the world,
> but for now, we need to stick to the reality of a proof. I
> have been working on a device that will evoke a lucid
> dream condition for that very purpose since I managed to
> have a lucid dream where I saw all 6 numbers but only
> remembered 4 of them on waking...played those numbers
> and won $120.00....so I know it works....
>

First of all, I would like to say that there some very interesting
time travel discussion going on there. I'm looking forward to
see the outcome of this experiment....

But something else caught my attention here, and that is the
device you have been working on, that will evoke a lucid
dream condition. Lucid Dreaming is an interest I have had
for almost a year now. An area I have a deep interest in.
So I'm always on the look for new techniques and devices.

Could you me the concept for this device, it is just detecting
REM and sending cues, or does it work by some other means?

I have created two FAQs, one Dreaming FAQ and one Lucid
Dreaming FAQ. The can both be read on alt.dreams or alt.dreams.lucid
My Dreaming FAQ contains a bunch of references to studies done
on telepathy and precognitive dreams..

Here is something taken from the Dreaming FAQ:
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4.1. Can dreams predict the future?
Yes. This is done all the time. I guess you have experienced a deja-vu. M=
ost
children do. Some people have these experiences as adults too, and some h=
ave
even gained control over this ability. It is possible to travel in time f=
rom
a Lucid Dream. But this will be discussed in the Lucid Dreaming FAQ. Thes=
e
experiences that predict the future have been labeled Precognitive dreams.
Spontaneous Precognitive dreams happen all over the world and are being
frequently reported. But not many controlled scientific experiments have
been done on this phenomenon, but those that I am aware of prove them to =
be
real. Two experiments done by Maimonides Hospital in Brooklyn, New York g=
ave
significant results. The testperson was the psychic Malcom Bessent, and t=
he
project was lead by Montague Ullman. Bessent slept in the laboratory for =
8
nights, were he tried to dream about an unknown event that should take pl=
ace
each morning after he woke up. It was a hit 5 out of those 8 nights. Chan=
ce
for this being a coincidence is 18:100 000 (p.=3D.00018). The second
experiment tried more to avoid possible explanations like telepathy and
clairvoyance. The experiment lasted 16 nights, where 8 of them were
precognitive nights and 8 of them were normal nights. What happen the
morning after the precognitive night was decided by random numbers. On th=
is
experiment was there also 5 hits out of 8 nights.

Those wanting to study the details can go over the reports:
Krippner, S., Ullman, M., and Honorton, C.
A precognitive dream study with a single subject.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 65:192-203,1971.

Krippner, S., Honorton, C., and Ullman, M.
A second precognitive dream study with Malcolm Bessent.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 66:269-279,1972.

Ullman, M., and Krippner, S., with Alan Vaughan.
Dream Telepathy. New Yourk: Macmillan, 1973.

Here are other reports on the subject of precognitive dreams:
Sondow, N. The decline of precognized events with the passage of time:
Evidence from spontaneous dreams.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1988, vol. 82,
33-51.

Stowell, M. S. Precognitive Dreams: A phenomenological study. Part I:
Methodology and sample cases.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1997, vol. 91,
163-220.

Stowell, M. S. Precognitive Dreams: A phenomenological study. Part II:
Discussion.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1997, vol. 91,
255-304.

Stevenson, I. A review and analysis of paranormal experiences connected
with the sinking of the Titanic.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1960, 54, 153-171.

Stevenson, I. Seven more paranormal experiences associated with the sinki=
ng
of the Titanic.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1965, 59, 211-225.

Stevenson, I. Precognition of disasters.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1970, 64, 187-210.

Van de Castle, R. L. Sleep and Dreams. In: B. B. Wolman (Ed.), Handbook o=
f
Parapsychology. New York & London:
Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1977, pp. 473-489.

Barker, J. C. Premonitions of the Aberfan disaster.
Journal of the American society for Psychical Research, 1967, 44, 169-181.

Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research (JASPR) is
available by subscription from the
American Society for Psychical Research,
5 West 73rd St
New York, NY 10023
http://www.aspr.com

Other books with evidence on the precognitive phenomenon is
The Conscious Universe from http://www.psiresearch.org
and a book by the name Margins of Reality.

4.2. Is it possible to share dreams?
Yes. Dreams can be shared and people may even have conversations with oth=
ers
with 100% accuracy. This is an interesting concept, and again you should =
be
lucid in order to make conscious contact with others in your dream. Many
people experience similar dreams with friends or relatives. This is not
uncommon either. Shared dreaming is also called mutual dreaming. Telepath=
y
is an area that has been done more research on. The same laboratory that
experimented with precognitive dreams, have also experimented with
dreamtelepathy. They have done 13 various experiments with dreamtelepathy=
, 9
of those gave statistical significant results.

Here are some references to some reports and books:
Ullman, M., Krippner, S. Dream Studies and telepathy.
Parapsychological Monographs No. 12. New Youk:
Parapsychological Foundation, 1970.

Ullman, M., and Krippner, S. with Alan Vaughan: Dream Telepathy.
New York: Macmillian Publishing Company, Inc., 1973.

Krippner, S. Dreams and other altered conscious states.
Journal of Communication, 25(1): 173-182, Winter 1975.

Tolaas, J. and Ullman, M. Extrasensory communication and dreams.
I: B. Wolman (ed.) Handbook of Dreams. New York:
Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1979, pp. 168-202.

Van De Castle, R. Sleep and dreams. I: B. Wolman, (ed.)
Handbook of Dreams. New York:
Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1977, pp. 473-499.

Krippner, S., Honorton, Ch., and Ullman, M.
A long-distance "sensory bombardment" study of ESP in dreams.
Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 65:468-475, 1971.

Krippner, S., Honorton, Ch., and Ullman, M. A long-distance ESP dream
study with Malcolm Bessent. Journal of the American Society of
Psychosomatic Dentistry and Medicine, 20:9-17, 1973.

Kogna, I. M. The informational aspect of telepathy. Paper presented
in absentia, at UCLA sumposium, A New Look at ESP, 1969.

Mitchell, E. An ESP test from Apollo 14. Journal of Parapsychology.
35: 89-107, 1971.

Hall, C. Experimente zur telepathischen Beeinflussung von Tr=E4umen.
Zeitschrift f=FCr Parapsychologie und
Grenzgebiete der Psychologie, 10:18-47, 1967.

Ross, C. Telepathy and dreams: An attempt at replication.
Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University, 1972 (Mimeo).

Norquiest, J. P. A multidimensional space model for extrasensory
transmission of mental concepts. Unpublished Master's thesis in
psychology. Sacramento: California State University, 1977.

Other books with evidence on telepathy is The Conscious Universe
and Margins of Reality.

4.2. Can I view distant locations from my dreams?
Yes. This is mostly called Clairvoyance, Remote Viewing, Out of Body
Experience or Astral Projection. It is a good way of exploring the Univer=
se,
there are no limits to distance, destination or speed. You can leave your
body from a Lucid Dream or on the onset of sleep. How to leave your body
from a dream will be discussed in my Lucid Dreaming FAQ. And you might al=
so
check out my Out of Body Experiences FAQ for more info on this. SRI
Experiments: 1973-1988. In 1988 Edwin May and his colleagues analyzed all
psi experimets conducted at SRI from 1973 until that time. The analysis w=
as
based on 154 experiments, consisting of more than 26,000 separate trials,
conducted over those sixteen years. Of those, just over a thousand trials
were laboratory remote-viewing tests. The statistical results of this
analysis indicated odds against chance of 10^20 to one (that is, more tha=
n a
billion billion to one). So chance is not a viable explanation.

Some references:
Dean Radin. Ph.D. The Conscious Universe: The scientific truth of psychic
phenomena. 91-109, 1997.

Robert G. Jahn and Brenda J. Dunne. Margins of Reality: The Role of
Consciousness in the Physical World. 149-191, 1987.
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