Re: WHY NOBODY IS ....INTO RADIONICS

Marc Olhoeft ( (no email) )
Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:46:43 -0900

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HELLO ALL
There has been increasing talk about the therapeutic machine made by Lee =
Crock
and used at the Therapeutic Clinic at 515 west street Caldwell Ohio.
I thought I might put in my two cents worth .(or after reviewing the =
length of this E mail I guess its a couple of bucks worth)
I had much skepticism about his claims and eventually called him and =
spoke with him in detail about his machine. He was very frank and =
forthcoming about the history and technical details, and encouraged me =
to build one if I could not afford one.
Further more when asked why he was charging so much for such a simple =
device he frankly replied that he was trying to raise funds for an MRI =
for the clinic to more accurately diagnose and prove the effectiveness =
of this therapy and to enlarge the clinic in general. This seemed to me =
as a reasonable and realistic approach to the matter given the =
"alternative"and risky environment he works in from traditional clinical =
medicine.
This also seemed to be an acceptable verifiable method to prove out his =
claims.
I agree that the unit is overpriced , however we do not think twice =
about spending
many times this much for traditional therapies.
He has Listed his machine as Patented #009-190-397 in his literature. =
and when I spoke to him he confirmed this .I did a search on the IBM =
Pat server and found no such Patent and when I asked him about it he =
claimed that it was indeed patented and that he Knew Little details and =
that he had hired a patent Atty. to deal with the process.(I did not =
press the issue).
=20
As I stated earlier he described the device in detail=20
1. It uses 10 1.5v D cell flashlight batteries connected in =
parallel.
2. It uses only 1 side of the batteries at a time (1 lead only) =
connected to the signal pads(potential but no current flow)
3 The device uses 120v A/C to drive a timer circuit that on 15 minute =
intervals operates a relay that switches between the Positive 1.5v dc =
and the Negative 1.5v dc battery bank.and is not connected to the device =
in any other way.
4 He referred to using conventional dry battery cells (zinc based) =
rather than the new alkaline type as the human body preferred the =
(flavor) due to its similarity to our chemical/electrical makeup,(seemed =
a bit unusual to me but there is some differences in voltage influx =
rates and voltage/use curves between the two types.
5 The pads they originally used were metal window screen material and =
were improved by using a rubber backing and cloth cover (presumably for =
comfort and durability ) but he claims that the old pads were as =
effective as the new ones.(presumably any conductor would work fine)
the treatments ranged from 1 hour(2 complete cycles) to 20 hours =
cumulative over several days for the worst case Patients .
As is claimed , all patients were cured , and relieved after treatment.
We did not discuss much, doing follow-ups on particular patients =
although this would seem certainly beneficial , they are keeping some =
records for their own verification.=20
The method of diagnosis was by using traditional Rieki hands sensing and =
through some kind of AURA photography.
My personal experience with aura photography was limited to Kyrilian sp? =
photography which uses an electrified plate to develop the aura and =
since contact with the plate is required this method is not well suited =
to body diagnostics.
The clinic uses some kind of newer machine which videotapes a standing =
person and shows their aura.
I did not discuss the details of this device with Lee trip. but he =
explained that they had not developed it but had purchased it for some =
10K dollars and was commercially available.
He felt that the device was accurate at depicting the areas of the AURA =
that were weak.
My personal take was that the man was being honest and forthright and =
very concerned for the health and welfare of fellow human beings and was =
willing to share his "secrets" without hesitation.
He made no attempt to mask his purpose and he was willing to share =
technical details and approx. 2 hours of his time describing the =
benefits of his device the history and operation with no real promise =
of profit.(something many inventors could benefit from adopting).
Further he was willing to sell on credit (500.00 down balance within 30 =
days and return if unsatisfied for full refund) there are not many =
health equipment providers
willing to step up to the plate (do you know any radionics ,rife ,etc =
that do that ?) .
All in all seemed pretty REAL to me.
I have several friends in that region and have recommended that they =
check out the clinic for their health needs. I will report their =
findings when they attend.
I intend to assemble a device as he described and experiment myself and =
will report my findings.
I encourage others do so and perhaps we can sort the wheat from the =
chaff.
Yours in the cause=20
Marc Olhoeft =20

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HELLO ALL
There has been increasing talk about the therapeutic =machine=20made by Lee Crock
and used at the Therapeutic Clinic at 515 west =street =20Caldwell Ohio.
I thought  I might put in my two cents worth =..(or after=20reviewing the length of this E mail I guess its a couple of bucks=20worth)
I had much skepticism about his claims and =eventually called=20him  and spoke with him in detail about his machine. He was very =frank and=20forthcoming about the history and technical details, and encouraged me =to build=20one if I could not afford one.
Further more when asked why he was charging so much =for such a=20simple device he frankly replied that he was trying to raise funds for =an MRI=20for the clinic to more accurately diagnose and prove the effectiveness =of this=20therapy and to enlarge the clinic in general. This seemed to me as a =reasonable=20and realistic approach to the matter given the ="alternative"and risky=20environment he works in from traditional clinical medicine.
This also seemed to be an acceptable verifiable =method to=20prove out his claims.
I agree that the unit is overpriced , however we do =not think=20twice about spending
many times this much  for traditional=20therapies.
He has Listed his machine as Patented #009-190-397 =in =20his literature. and when I spoke to him he confirmed  this .I did a =search=20on the IBM Pat server and found no such Patent and when I asked him =about it he=20claimed that it was indeed patented and that he Knew Little details and =that he=20had hired a patent Atty. to deal with the process.(I did not press the=20issue).
 
As I stated earlier he described the device in =detail=20
1.    It uses 10 1.5v D cell  =flashlight=20batteries connected in parallel.
2.    It uses only 1 side of the =batteries at a=20time (1 lead only) connected to the       =signal=20pads(potential but no current flow)
3    The device uses 120v A/C to =drive a timer=20circuit that on 15 minute intervals operates a relay that switches between the Positive 1.5v dc and the Negative 1.5v dc =battery=20bank.and is not connected to the device in any other way.
4    He referred to using =conventional dry=20battery  cells (zinc based) rather than the new alkaline type as =the human=20body preferred the (flavor) due to its similarity to our =chemical/electrical=20makeup,(seemed a bit unusual to me but there is some differences in =voltage=20influx rates and voltage/use curves between  the two =types.
5    The pads they originally used =were metal=20window screen material and were improved by using a rubber backing and =cloth=20cover (presumably for comfort and durability ) but he claims that the =old pads=20were as effective as the new ones.(presumably any conductor would work=20fine)
the treatments ranged from  1 hour(2 complete =cycles) to=2020 hours cumulative over several days for the worst case Patients =..
As is claimed , all patients were  cured , and =relieved=20after treatment.
We did not discuss much, doing follow-ups on =particular=20patients although this would seem certainly beneficial , they are =keeping some=20records  for their own verification.
The method of diagnosis was by using traditional =Rieki hands=20sensing and through some kind of AURA photography.
My personal experience with aura photography was =limited to=20Kyrilian sp? photography which uses an electrified plate to develop the =aura and=20since contact with the plate is required  this method is not well =suited to=20body diagnostics.
The clinic uses some kind of newer machine which =videotapes=20a standing person and shows their =aura.
 I did not discuss the details of this device =with Lee=20trip. but he explained that they had not developed it but had purchased =it for=20some 10K dollars and was commercially available.
He felt that the device was accurate at depicting =the areas of=20the AURA that were weak.
My personal take was that the man was being  =honest and=20forthright and very concerned for the health and welfare of fellow human =beings=20and was willing  to share his "secrets" without=20hesitation.
He made no  attempt to mask his purpose and he was willing to share technical details and =approx. 2 hours=20of his  time describing the benefits of his device the history and=20operation  with no  real promise of profit.(something many=20inventors  could benefit from adopting).
Further he was willing to sell on credit (500.00 =down balance=20within 30 days and return if unsatisfied  for full refund) there =are not=20many health equipment providers
willing to step up to the plate (do you know any =radionics=20,rife ,etc that do that ?) .
All in all seemed pretty REAL to me.
I have several friends in that region and have =recommended=20that they check out the clinic for their health needs. I will report =their=20findings  when they attend.
I intend to assemble a device as he described and =experiment=20myself and will report my findings.
I encourage others do so and perhaps we can sort the =wheat=20from the chaff.
Yours in the cause 
Marc Olhoeft  
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