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Hi David et al!
You wrote;
> ...They are probably not being sold at present because of the lack
> of places to fill up. There are few (16 I think) petrol stations
> in the UK that can feed hydrogen as well as natural gas and
> Liquefied Petroleum Gas. I can walk into a Volvo showroom in the
> UK and buy a LPG powered car today, although I haven't seen any
> advertising to this effect.
as well as;
> ...Could it be events such as the Hindenburg disaster that have put
> people off hydrogen? (It was actually the explosive 'waterproof'
> coating that caused the Hindenburg disaster!)
David, I think you hit the nail on the head with regard to using
hydrogen gas that is already made up and possibly stored in something
like those carbon nanotubes as opposed to just making it AS YOU NEED IT
from safe, clean water.
That Spanish discovery about the molybdenum compound that instantly
hisses water into its constituent gasses is the best thing I'd seen.
Though it will eventually dissolve away the molybdenum compound, it
requires no electricity or outside source of power. What little I have
on it is at;
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/valhyd.htm
The guy with the lawnmower engine said by adjusting the stroke on his
engine that he could reduce the heat and stop the formation of water
which is why I posted those messages. I thought it was 7 amps but the
note said 15 amps was being produced.
Now it would seem that some mechanically minded person out there would
get a 4 cylinder engine and adjust the stroke in a similar fashion, then
use this engine to drive a generator to provide the electrical needs of
a home. Here is yet another version of that method that claims the
production of 7KW by a simple modification of any car engine;
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dynamo.txt
Some people are heavy into auto engines so such a test would be easy for
them, needing mostly garage space and a 'sacrificial engine'. Maybe
videotaping their results and selling the tape to show others of their
success, and/or with plans that work, as George Wiseman does at;
http://www.eagle-research.com/
Now George doesn't claim free energy as in overunity, though he like
most of us is looking for that also. But increasing efficiency is a
necessary stepping stone to understand how to get to over unity.
The lawnmower claim intrigues me even if only at 10 amps at 12vdc was
left over after the power needed to generate the hydrogen, that is still
120Watts of overunity power, if it works as the guy claimed. And thats
working from ONE CYLINDER. The coolest thing is that it makes the
hydrogen from the water as it needs it, no storage, no explosions.
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Hi Jerry and All
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry W. Decker <jdecker@keelynet.com>
> If such working hydrogen powered vehicles are out there, why aren't
> they being touted, sold, demonstrated, documented and if they work
> so well, isn't it peculiar that they aren't all over the roads? Or
> even being used to run old car engines that produce electricity for
> a home? Why is that?
Many manufacturers have hydrogen powered vehicles at least at prototype
stage. I certainly know that Mazda have a hydrogen powered MX-5 (Murata
?) as I've seen a few on the road (well it had large 'Powered by
Hydrogen' decals....).
They are probably not being sold at present because of the lack of
places to fill up. There are few (16 I think) petrol stations in the UK
that can feed hydrogen as well as natural gas and Liquefied Petroleum
Gas. I can walk into a Volvo showroom in the UK and buy a LPG powered
car today, although I haven't seen any advertising to this effect.
I'd be willing to bet that all major car manufacturers have done the
necessary research and can readily convert their engines to run on a
variety of fuels including hydrogen. As usual, however, the motor
manufacturers will wait for legislation before pushing sales. I know
that Chrysler have been researching hydrogen power since the 1960's. As
stated by TRK, hybrid engines that are designed to work with propane
will also work with hydrogen.
Could it be events such as the Hindenburg disaster that have put people
off hydrogen? (It was actually the explosive 'waterproof' coating that
caused the Hindenburg disaster!)
IMHO we need legislation to force motor manufacturers to offer hydrogen
powered or hybrid cars for sale, and to force the petrol giants to
supply hydrogen at the pumps. Hydrogen would also probably cost more
per mile than petrol currently (petrol costs about $6.00 USD per gallon
in the UK).
Because petrol powered cars that meet strict new Californian laws are
available, I think this will take some time yet.
I wonder if rioters in the future will be making hydrogen bombs instead
of petrol bombs :-)
Best regards - David Callaghan
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