TR Knudtson,
If you want to share the info why are you beating around the bush? Just
put it in the public domain! Frankly I am getting a bit tired of these
teases that people in the know and/or with hidden agendas keep badgering
various lists with....
>The thing that I am wanting to offer to those who would involve themselves
>directly in the research, is complete disclosure of all reports and
>documentation. This may be different than the news group.
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>If this project goes on to develop a collective product, a final granting
>of patent or such, I would see it as a possession of the group, and
>ownership then be of an international distribution, to each contributing
>member.
Come on now how are you going to coordinate all this? Typical wishful
thinking, totalling impractical...
>In bringing Brown to the US in 90, I had hoped that the us would not act
>in this way, much to my disappointment it was the case. Even after
>demonstrating the technology for the Lawrence Livermore labs, The excited
>scientists left our meeting with the greatest enthusiasm claiming this the
>most important discovery since the atomic age, There quote not mine, only
>to turn sour over night, phoning later to explain that they had not much
>extra time to spend on such things.
What would you expect these people to do?? Go around praising the inventors
on how great the invention is and then build and market it for them to
boot? Have you inventors never heard of the NIH (Not Invented Here)
syndrome? For them to be as enthusiastic as the inventors it would also
have to be their idea at least partially - its called buy in... sorry life
is just that way...
I agree with Dwenbert...
"They all seem to be bumbling around like Newman, not getting
anything accomplished. If these people are this inept at business, they
can't be so all-fired brilliant at anything else. People skills are not
THAT remote from other forms of abstract reasoning."
If only the inventors had spent half the time and money marketing their
invention instead of trying to convince disinterested parties something may
have come of it.....
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>Oh hell!, I just want to cut down on my e-mail, and have one place for
>people to come to get as much as they can, in the way of starting in this
>technology, and free of charge. That does not mean that we have to let out
>specifics on a given design that the group may be working on.
Free of charge? not let out specifics? Either its public domain or its not.
Really this is just more rubbish!
Less malarkey please!
>I have always been an advocate that the future of this technology does not
>lie in making units, but rather in the applications of this gas.
>
Well stop hoarding the info. Let it out in the public domain and pls don't
give us all the tiresome diatribe on non disclosure agreements and how the
inventors have spent all their lifes on their inventions etc. and have
every right for a 'ransom' for their info etc. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS
sorry for the catch but that's life and I can tell you 'information wants
to be free' and sooner or later we will have the info. So if you want to
make a difference do it sooner... as it may be very later.. as in scheme of
things (nature) time is irrelevant.
On a positive note I have learned a lot from your posts and its a real
pity that this is turning out be so unnecessarily complex... If we had more
info we all could learn/dialogue with a lot more substance and accelerate
this technology, While we both seem to want the same thing, going in
circles is just not going to do it. Sad
Chris Gupta
>TR Knudtson
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