Re: Jed - well informed as ever

Dennis C. Lee ( (no email) )
Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:33:01 -0400

At 11:22 AM 10/22/98 -0400, you wrote:

>You are thinking of agriculture, not energy. Civilization predates the energy
>sector by 11,000 years. There was no energy sector until 1712 (Newcomen)
>unless you count small water and windmills. Anyway, we are as much dependent
>upon telephones and microcomputers as energy. If Intel, IBM and Microsoft
>disappear civilization will collapse and we will starve. It is a frightening
>thought!
>
>
> What is the cost of the destruction of a planet, the loss of species,
> the Gulf War? What is the cost of the suffering and carnage from lack
> and conflict?

Here are a few more theories:

http://truinsight.com/planetar.htm

>That's agriculture again. It destroys more land and causes more pollution than
>any other industry. Only a few wars have been fought over oil, but countless
>wars have been fought for agricultural land, fresh water and Lebensraum. But
>you do not see proposals to regulate grocery stores and farms with public
>institutions, government bodies, or not-for-profit organizations. The trend is
>the other direction. U.S. agriculture is being deregulated. The Georgia peanut
>crop is still largely regulated which is why we pay too much for peanuts.

I think we should do something about the global warming situation soon:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Who knows? Maybe global warming is keeping the Antarctic polar icecap small
enough that the planetary alignment at 5/5/2000 won't tip the Earth's axis?
The wooly mammoths they found perfectly frozen in the arctic region suggests
that it has happened before. Once the icecap slips to the equator (in 3-4
hours?), the velocity is calculated to be 16,000 mph. The atmosphere can't
keep up and everywhere except the pivot points gets exposed to the vacuum of
space.

>When a corporation stops working for people (for its customers), the people
>wave their hands and a few years later the corporation is history. The CEO of
>IBM is the servant of his customers. He has no more power over them than a
>shoe-shine man or a kid flipping burgers. Corporate executives sometimes
>develop the illusion that they have power, and they can dictate to their
>customers. Many people (including you) fall for this nonsense. But when the
>market changes, and new technology comes along, huge corporations are wiped
>out in a few years. Look what happened to IBM. The other day Compaq bought
>DEC!

I would say this is the case for conventional energy. Perhaps recent weather
patterns will get it into the heads of those who suppress F/E that we might
not be in the situation we are in now had they let us do our jobs. I'm
ashamed to say that the Texas floods made me think "There you go, you like
that? It's probably your own fault!" to the oil people there.

> Are you acting unaccountably or in an unethical manner?
>
>If I was, would I tell you?
>
>
> Although I would agree that entropy is as solid a law in sociology as it
> is in material sciences, I believe that humanity largely shares a common
> morality as enshrine in the religions and philosophical codes of all
> peoples.

I'm so concerned about our present situation that I started to read the
Bible. Perhaps our best bet would be if we could get a significant number of
everyone to be completely honest about everything on a permanent basis. BTW,
does anyone know where the exact definition of marrage is, and what the
proceedure is, in the Bible?

>You should study anthropology. One man's morality is another man's poison.
>Even in our own narrow culture here in Atlanta, some people boast about the
>way they discipline their children & pull them out of school to educate them
>home. Whereas others, including me, think that is barbaric child abuse.

Jed, I'd like to hear your opinion of the following situation. Our landlord
prepaid a 1% 40 year loan 15 years early. He then tried to triple the rent
level on our art community. We spent over $150,000.00 on legal fees to stop
his eviction litigation. The MHFA is highly reluctant to release the
mortgage, regulatory, and interest subsidy agreements (I tried Freedom of
Information - nothing). The BRA also refuses to disclose disposition and
representations agreements. Our lawyers refuse to go after these documents.
The Bar Overseers refuse to discipline lawyers involved. Our tenants
association refuses to do anything other than what the lawyers say. The rest
of the tenants think it's hopeless or that somehow the wealthy have the
right to be completely unethical (wannabees?). The Mayor and his staff
doesn't want to know anything about this situation. I'm the only guy asking
about these documents. All the tenants know I have a point but would rather
get this thing over with even if it means having to eventually leave from
ever increasing rent levels. The landlord probably has no right to do this
either. All this for a building and you want to market free energy? BTW, it
has become very difficult for mail packages to reach my door lately.

Similar description of above:

http://www.jeffry.com/technology/bwt/declaration.htm

I agree with the view on creativity:

http://www.jeffry.com/technology/bwt/cat_mission.htm

>If it is secret would we tell you? That's another stupid question, like "are
>you acting unaccountably or in an unethical manner?" Do you cheat on your
>taxes? Have you murdered anyone lately? Do you have any shameful secrets about
>your sex life that you would like to share with our studio audience?

Round rain clouds?

http://www.eagle-net.org/phikent/orbit/april/armageddon2.html

Regards;
Dennis :(

Well, back to the AutoCad LISP programming (freelance). Gotta pay the
bills... to people like my wonderful landlord.

Tall Ships
http://pw1.netcom.com/~atech/tallship.html